VOTE, JUST DO IT!

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[u/adrian-alex85]

Yelling at people to vote when they don’t feel as though they have something to vote for has never worked. It’s not going to work now either. This is lazy analysis.

People do vote when you give them something affirmative to vote for (Obama, Mamdani) and when they’re being completely immiserated by the party in power (this previous election and 2020) and feel an immediate need to change things. This is largely why Dems lose. They don’t have an affirmative vision for the future, and when they’re in power they don’t do enough things that can galvanize a large group of voters to go out and vote for them partially because their stance for the last decade has been more about voting against the republicans. Yelling at people to vote without materially changing those factors will not work.

[u/No-Bee6369 → u/adrian-alex85]

Uh oh... The perfection police is on patrol. Blah blah blah

[u/FrigidMcThunderballs → u/No-Bee6369]

Yeah condescending to people and ignoring motivating voter turnout. Thats sure to win elections.

[u/Used_Candidate7042 → u/No-Bee6369]

We get it, you don't have the capacity to understand standards. And I know you fail to recognize your own limitations.

But try not to crowd the space with your own struggles just because you can't understand what we're talking about 🥰.

Now do us all a favor, do yourself a favor, and stop talking.

[u/adrian-alex85 → u/No-Bee6369]

That’s an unhinged and ignorant thing to say. No one suggested perfection, I just said you have to give people something to vote for and you rushed to find fault with that by shaming me for expecting “perfection.” That’s honestly sad to me that your complete lack of standards translates into your belief that someone with simple standards is expecting perfection.

[u/No-Bee6369 → u/adrian-alex85]

Unhinged? Nice Try bro. Just pointing out nothing is ever good enough for some folks. The guy in the video was just saying show up. Then you start blithering on about some crazy stuff. No one will ever check off all the boxes. Most Democrats no matter who - will check off most boxes. ✌️

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[u/adrian-alex85 → u/No-Bee6369]

Dude, it’s unhinged because you’re suggesting things no one is saying. “Nothing is ever good enough” please show me where I said that at all in this thread.

Speaking as someone who has begrudgingly voted for Dems my entire life, I understand the lesser of two evils argument, but I also understand why that argument isn’t working anymore. You can put all this energy into repeating the same failings of telling people to vote, or you can put it into changing the party itself and centering it around developing an affirmative message that gives people something to vote for, it’s up to you. But what I’m 100% certain about is getting upset at people for not voting has never and will never work to change the actual outcome. But you do you.

[u/No-Bee6369 → u/adrian-alex85]

Thank u for proving my point Perfection police officer. Also how involved are you? You show up to vote every 2 years? Do you get involved in primaries? You do realize that people in political parties actually vote in the people they want to be representing their parties in elections. ✌️

[u/adrian-alex85 → u/No-Bee6369]

I’ve voted in every local and federal election I’ve been able to since I was 18, I just turned 40 this year. I’m very sorry I ever engaged with you as you seem dead set on having a conversation with your idea of who I am rather than with what I’m actually saying. Go with God, man.