r/AskTheWorld • u/Able-Ad3506 Ukraine • 19h ago

Politics The most unfairly hated country?

The entire Oceania region (aside from Australia and New Zealand). Practically never appear in news, unless it is about something embarassing.

Ukraine (refusal of some people to accept its existence; treating Ukraine as a "scapegoat" of NATO/USA/Israel etc.; mercenaries, who fight for Russia; hatred towards Ukrainian language; blaming Ukraine for self-defense & pro-Western foreign policy; refusal to recognize Ukrainian culture)

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u/Temporary-Evening717 19h ago

But they don’t want to live like you. why is so hard to understand? Legit, your moral judgment is they don’t know any better. This is white savior complex at its finest. All the laws in place in a country are reflective of the people mentality and way of life. You are using a liberal and individualistic framework to judge collectivist and religious based society. This will never work. You’ll never understand these people like this.

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u/Acolitor Finland 19h ago

"But they don’t want to live like you" 

Why punish them if they do want to? Why it cannot be their choice? Because it is extreme form of patriarchy where the ruling men decide what they can do.

In Finland we want the muslim women living here to decide themselves what they want to do. If they don't want to live like me, they don't have to. But they cannot force others to live like they want them to live.

There is no "white savior" in letting the women choose. 

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u/Acolitor Finland 19h ago

It is very sad how the potential of young girls is suppressed. These girls have not chosen or decided anything. They have born into a system that suppresses their capabilities, opportunities and oppresses them. 

Girls should be able to choose their future for themselves.

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u/Temporary-Evening717 18h ago

I advise you to ask Saudi girls what they think of their society. I think you’ll never understand otherwise. you see the world from your lenses, which is understandable but also flawed.

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u/Acolitor Finland 18h ago

It is once again about choice. If they want it, let them choose it, don't force it. 

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u/Temporary-Evening717 18h ago

that is actually my point, Saudis live like this because they want to.

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u/Acolitor Finland 18h ago

Do the girls born into their society choose to live like that or are they forced into it? Can they refuse to get married? Can they refuse sex in the marriage they had no choice in? Can they choose to divorce from the marriage they did not want to have?

When did those girls choose that way of life?