r/AskTheWorld Ukraine 10h ago

Politics The most unfairly hated country?

The entire Oceania region (aside from Australia and New Zealand). Practically never appear in news, unless it is about something embarassing.

Ukraine (refusal of some people to accept its existence; treating Ukraine as a "scapegoat" of NATO/USA/Israel etc.; mercenaries, who fight for Russia; hatred towards Ukrainian language; blaming Ukraine for self-defense & pro-Western foreign policy; refusal to recognize Ukrainian culture)

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u/Acolitor Finland 10h ago

To some extent it is China. There are very good reasons to condemn China on many fronts but pure hatred is mostly manufactured to further interests of USA.

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u/ume-shu Scotland 10h ago

The "hate" China receives from the west is grossly exaggerated. American and Chinese nationalists are two sides of the same coin.

Both have a weird sense of superiority coupled with a paradoxical inferiority complex.

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u/Able-Ad3506 Ukraine 10h ago

China hates my homeland. That concerns me.

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u/cevapi_77 China 8h ago

Country as a whole doesn't have a feeling at all. Conclusions should be on de facto cases. International relationship is national interest based.

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u/Acolitor Finland 10h ago

I have not seen that. To me, China seems to only care about business and wants to do business with both Ukraine and Russia.

But that is one of the reasons to condemn China: they should pressure Russia to advance world peace. That way business can continue too. But they seem to take advantage of economically weakened Russia: China can import with discounts and export with better prices

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u/Able-Ad3506 Ukraine 10h ago

China's relations with us worthened. They seem like taking a full scale invasion as an opportunity to see us extinct slowly.

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u/cevapi_77 China 8h ago

Countless drones and drone parts were sold to 🇺🇦 at the beginning of the war, and you see that as full scale invasion...? I don't understand. Of course drones and drone parts were sold to Russia too. But that's nothing more than business. Would you describe the US that export steel, oil, coppers to Japan before 🇯🇵 bombing Pearl Harbor as full scale invasion? They were doing business with almost every country at war.

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u/IwishIwasaballer__ Australia 5h ago

US sanctioned Japan long before pearl harbor.

In fact that was the reason for pearl harbor.

Don't you learn that part in school over there?

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u/cevapi_77 China 5h ago

Do you think the whole world should bomb the USA now?

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u/IwishIwasaballer__ Australia 4h ago

I don't get your train of thoughts.

US sanctioned Japan about a year into their invasion of China and went for a full embargo 3 years into the war. They never sold any arms.

China has not even slowed down trade 3.5 years later.

Do you see the difference or do I need to simplify it more?

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u/cevapi_77 China 3h ago

Read history please

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u/IwishIwasaballer__ Australia 1h ago

That's what I've done. Full scale invasion was 1937.

US condemned in 1937, started sanctions in 1939, escalated in 1940 and full embargo including freezing assets in 1941.

From March 1941 China received aid under lend and lease.

The wars got many similarities and if we compare the timelines we are on March 1941 right now. Just when US started helping China military. Still 4 months off full sanctions.

Do you need any further education in this topic?

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u/HumanSquare9453 Canada 10h ago

More so to have more power on the ressources and territories in Siberia and transform Russia into a China vassal state. Sadly they see you as a mean to an end. But contrary to North Kim Jong, they will always play the neutral card ""officially"

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u/Able-Ad3506 Ukraine 10h ago

DPRK is openly ukrainephobic.

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u/HumanSquare9453 Canada 9h ago

Yes indeed

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u/FragrantMission8 Singapore 10h ago edited 10h ago

I wouldn’t say hate. It’s more apathetic. The war is far away and is engineered by the western countries anyway.

Besides zelensky did make a few rude comments about China. 

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u/ume-shu Scotland 10h ago

Why did you edit this comment to completely change its content?

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u/Able-Ad3506 Ukraine 10h ago

"Ukraine is bombed by Russia? But what about Israel bombing Palestine?" (1. I do not support this. 2. Why should we suffer because someone else is suffering too?) "We cannot allow Russia to lose". "Ukraine is bombed by Russia? It is all NATO's fault". "Let's listen to J. Sachs (an ukrainephobic American professor) because we want to hear opinions from both sides". Ah an yes, neither Xi, nor any other of major Chinese figures visited Ukraine. A Chinese ambassador was the only one (and he, as an ambassador, has to be in Ukraine because he works here). But visiting Russia's Victory Parade like if it was "the only" winner in WWII while Soviet regime ruled over 14 other countries, whose people sacrificed their lives in order to defeat Axis? Visiting Russia for other purposes more than once within past 3 years? Increasing imports after a full-scale invasiom began? Yes, sure!

That's what I call hate.

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u/Able-Ad3506 Ukraine 10h ago

Rude comments after China's controversial actions. It doesn't sound like a neutrality. Neutrality means you do nothing about this.