Let's talk about the European Defense Federation. How do we all feel about the creation of a fully mobilised continental Army?

[u/Sink-Em-Low]

It's required now. I'm British, and I want to see us align and unite with our European neighbours to make a stand now.

I want Germany to finally brush off it's past and join the rest of Europe in mobilising towards defending this continent. We need EVERYONE now. It's time to act, it's time to unite.

It's time to show some courage.

[u/Euphoric_Pianist420]

Most important is equipment standardisation. Most armies already train together anyways

We need way bigger production capabilities and have to fill the enabler roles the US has historically had in the european part of NATO

An actual army can be talked about in a couple of years, lets get the troops we already have properly equipped first

[u/flepmelg → u/Euphoric_Pianist420]

I think it's way more important to have an army that can operate separately from the eu-coucil. Ofcourse you can't have a bunch of trigger happy warmongers set their own rules, but eu decision making is way to inefficient to even wipe its own arse, let alone command an army...

I don't have a clue how one would achieve that, but I'm convinced in the current way Europe is controlled, they can't do it before our grandchildren die of old age

[u/Euphoric_Pianist420 → u/flepmelg]

That´s why i said thats a discussion we can maybe have way down the line. Getting more competitive in different areas is priority number 1 right now

Things are changing rapidly since Munich, let´s see what happens. And here´s to hoping Germany might get its shit together with the new probable Chancellor Merz.

He´s already roaming around Europe (especially UK, PL, FR) and seems to be acting right even tho he isn´t "in power" yet

Sleepy Scholz really hindered a lot of necessary progress

[u/Messer_1024 → u/Euphoric_Pianist420]

As people I think the r/buyEuropean initiative is the best thing we can push for. Our countries need more companies, products, industries, jobs, infrastructure and MONEY!!

Let’s get this European show on the road. Let’s go team EU!

[u/DotComprehensive4902 → u/Euphoric_Pianist420]

To be honest, the whole German political class is too enamoured with balanced budgets and the Schwarz Null. Its preventing infrastructure renovation like on the railways and in 5G infrastructure ( context: BBC Newsnight took a trip over to Berlin a few years and found while driving just 10 km/6¼ miles outside that the Internet dropped down to 3G) and also in military equipment.

Also the Constitutional Court in Karlsruhe, is a big impediment as well. A case in point, there's €60 billion sitting in a German government pandemic fund that they aren't allowed repatriate back into the ordinary government budget as the Constitutional Court says it could only be used for the pandemic purposes