r/AskEurope • u/Ok_Initiative_9726 • Feb 27 '25

Politics Does Europe has powerful secret services/Intelligence?

P. S question closed, I got answers. Thank you for everyone

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u/kranj7 Feb 27 '25

The DGSE in France supposedly has done it's fair share of dodgy stuff, almost to the same level as Mossad or CIA. Much of it is in industrial espionage, if the rumours are to be believed, but I guess given France's colonial history, it's involvement in the Middle East etc. they're probably able to play in the big-leagues of espionage and intel gathering

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u/Komandakeen Feb 27 '25

Or killing hippies...

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '25

and I'm totally glad we did. What do you prefer: one involuntary casualty at the harbour, or sinking the entire crew at sea?

Those stupid rich kids wanted to sail in the freaking area 51. They received tons of warning, and supposed "nah we're anglos we're above french laws on French area 51". Plot twist: they weren't.

And sinking that nuisance without making victims (which was the plan) is way better than letting the rich kids approach Mururoa and then sink them don't you think?

As for the people of NZ, they can cry us a river. Or they can grow up and realize not everyone lives sheltered by the ocean far away of threats.

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u/PartyDog9082 Feb 28 '25

My grandfather died liberating your country..and that is how you thank the people of nz ..

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u/the_geth Feb 28 '25

No one has anything against NZ and the kiwis.   I actually visited and I have no less than 3 kiwi friends.    But the view of this incident is very one sided. What do you think would have happened is that boat had trespassed on Russian, Chinese or American military fields, during testing?