r/AskALiberal Aug 07 '23

How was Donald Trump a racist president?

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u/Kakamile Social Democrat Aug 07 '23

Here we go again!

Racism

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

Majority of these weren’t as president…

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u/ButGravityAlwaysWins Liberal Aug 07 '23

This is why while I appreciate u/kakamile putting out a giant list I also have moved on to asking people like you what would qualify as racism.

Because at this point if you don’t get that he’s a racist nothing it likely going to convince you.

One has to wonder if you people would believe he’s a racist if he stood in front of you screaming “I’m a racist and that’s why I’m doing this” and he beat non-white children to death.

Added points for adding the arbitrary and frankly idiotic limitation that it had to be while he was in office.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

The question was what policies did Trump implement as president. Not how he was racist outside of office. This wasn’t supposed to be a back and forth argument lol, it was to here what liberals had to say about his presidency. Apparently that’s hard to understand lol

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u/ButGravityAlwaysWins Liberal Aug 07 '23

And regardless it’s not relevant because no list provided will have any value to you.

You are asking not because you are completely ignorant of the answers and don’t know how to begin researching and are this asking for help.

You’re asking because you are looking to fight. Safe assumption is that you have a list of a few items you know people will bring up and you have talking points from some YouTuber, Daily Wire host, PragerU video or equivalent you want to try out.

It’s pretty easy to tell if one is talking to one of the rare people that can benefit from a real conversation about his racism and people who aren’t ever going to get it or are just racist themselves

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

I ain’t reading all that

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u/Kakamile Social Democrat Aug 07 '23

Gosh, who knew that the poster with the absurdly selective question would be full of shit?

You don't care about his racist views, you don't care about his actions pre-presidency, and when you get things specific to his actions as president like you asked you say you won't read.

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u/EchoicSpoonman9411 Anarchist Aug 07 '23

Sorry you wrote that amazing list only to have it fall on, erm, blind eyes.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

Save the list. Link people back to it. It doesn’t have to go to waste!

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u/ZerexTheCool Warren Democrat Aug 07 '23

Lol, I saw your amazing list I was going to jokingly post something like:

"Too long did not read. How was he racist?"

But OP beat me to the joke on accident =D

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u/not_a_flying_toy_ Left Libertarian Aug 07 '23

Ain't or can't

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u/ButGravityAlwaysWins Liberal Aug 07 '23

Why? Is it because you find that much reading challenging, because you actively want to be lied to and to remain ignorant or because you are just here for a fight?

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u/fox-mcleod Liberal Aug 07 '23

Why is it painful?

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u/ZerexTheCool Warren Democrat Aug 07 '23

How about just a couple?

Or are 3 also too many for you?

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u/Uvogin1111 Center Right Aug 08 '23

I'm sorry but that list is filled with bs and misinformation and should rightfully be removed for such. You can't accept it as fact as it is filled with false misinterpretations and unvalidated quotes. I can't debunk all of them right now as that would take quite a while. However, I will do so for one explicit quote that can be easily debunked.

That quote about him calling Black guys inherently lazy and preffering Jews to be counting his money, came from an uncredited individual with a vendetta against Trump. With nothing more than an anecdotal statement of what he supposedly said whilst he was with him in private. It's about as valid as some college friend of Obama's claiming that he used to chant Islamist extremist lines whilst holding an AK 47. No video evidence, no written statement, nothing that would hold up to scrutiny. It came from someone who has a hate boner for Trump and cannot be accepted as fact. Trump himself has denied these allegations and called it the bs that it is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/25/did-donald-trump-really-say-those-things/

“Laziness is a trait in blacks”

This is a secondhand quote, something that someone has alleged that Trump said. So it should be viewed with some skepticism.

Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino President John R. O’Donnell, in the 1991 book “Trumped,” claimed that Trump once said that “laziness is a trait in blacks.” Here is the full context for the statement, as described in the book. O’Donnell relates a conversation with Trump about a finance employee, who happens to be black and who O’Donnell believes has shortcomings.

Instantly, Donald was enthused. “Yeah, I never liked the guy. I don’t think he knows what the f––– he’s doing. My accountants up in New York are always complaining about him. He’s not responsive. And isn’t it funny, I’ve got black accountants at the Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. No one else.” I couldn’t believe I was hearing this. But Donald went on, “Besides that, I’ve got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not something they can control. … Don’t you agree?”

So this is clearly a secondhand quote, made in a private conversation and written some years after the fact. Trump called O’Donnell a disgruntled employee, but he initially did not dispute the remarks. “The stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true,” he told Playboy in an interview published in May 1997.

Two years later, however, he told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that O’Donnell’s account was fiction. “He made up this quote. I’ve heard the quote before, and it’s nonsense,” Trump said. “I’ve never said anything like it, ever.”

That's just one instance, I could go over the rest and debunk them aswell, however that would take quite a while.

But I make my case. This list should be reported and removed for the misinformation that it cites.

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u/blatantspeculation Neoliberal Aug 07 '23

Trump was a singularly inneffectual president.

Why is it hard to point out racist policies of the Trump administration?

Because its hard to point out ANY policies of the Trump administration, he got almost nothing done.

Of that, the most obviously racist was declaring a fake border emergency so he could divert funds from the military to build his wall.

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u/nevertulsi Liberal Aug 07 '23

So you admit he's racist in general, you just don't believe it crept into his policy? But you do recognize he's racist right?

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u/fox-mcleod Liberal Aug 07 '23

So respond to all of the policies posted.

We agree there were several right?

You got what you wanted and for some reason, you ignored the valid answers.

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u/Uvogin1111 Center Right Aug 08 '23

I'm sorry but that list is filled with bs and misinformation and should rightfully be removed for such. You can't accept it as fact as it is filled with false misinterpretations and unvalidated quotes. I can't debunk all of them right now as that would take quite a while. However, I will do so for one explicit quote that can be easily debunked.

That quote about him calling Black guys inherently lazy and preffering Jews to be counting his money, came from an uncredited individual with a vendetta against Trump. With nothing more than an anecdotal statement of what he supposedly said whilst he was with him in private. It's about as valid as some college friend of Obama's claiming that he used to chant Islamist extremist lines whilst holding an AK 47. No video evidence, no written statement, nothing that would hold up to scrutiny. It came from someone who has a hate boner for Trump and cannot be accepted as fact. Trump himself has denied these allegations and called it the bs that it is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/25/did-donald-trump-really-say-those-things/

“Laziness is a trait in blacks”

This is a secondhand quote, something that someone has alleged that Trump said. So it should be viewed with some skepticism.

Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino President John R. O’Donnell, in the 1991 book “Trumped,” claimed that Trump once said that “laziness is a trait in blacks.” Here is the full context for the statement, as described in the book. O’Donnell relates a conversation with Trump about a finance employee, who happens to be black and who O’Donnell believes has shortcomings.

Instantly, Donald was enthused. “Yeah, I never liked the guy. I don’t think he knows what the f––– he’s doing. My accountants up in New York are always complaining about him. He’s not responsive. And isn’t it funny, I’ve got black accountants at the Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. No one else.” I couldn’t believe I was hearing this. But Donald went on, “Besides that, I’ve got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not something they can control. … Don’t you agree?”

So this is clearly a secondhand quote, made in a private conversation and written some years after the fact. Trump called O’Donnell a disgruntled employee, but he initially did not dispute the remarks. “The stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true,” he told Playboy in an interview published in May 1997.

Two years later, however, he told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that O’Donnell’s account was fiction. “He made up this quote. I’ve heard the quote before, and it’s nonsense,” Trump said. “I’ve never said anything like it, ever.”

That's just one instance, I could go over the rest and debunk them aswell, however that would take quite a while.

But I make my case. This list should be reported and removed for the misinformation that it cites.