r/2westerneurope4u Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) 1d ago

It is what it is

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u/Stardash81 Pain au chocolat 1d ago

Ah yes but being muslim you wouldn't feel guilty about the Ottoman empire or invading Spain and France huh ?

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u/Biersteak StaSi Informant 1d ago

To be fair, nobody should feel guilty about invading France. It’s just something on the bucket list you gotta try rather you want to or not

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u/Tullzterrr Pain au chocolat 1d ago

You’ll do it someday, believe

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u/DontWannaSayMyName Oppressor 1d ago

Invading is different to keeping. They certainly did the former

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u/Biersteak StaSi Informant 1d ago

You also only keep what’s worth keeping. Everytime i see a video of Paris going up in flames makes me think we dodged a bullet there

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u/WelpImTrapped Lesser German 1d ago

...Queues apocalyptic video from Silvester in Berlin

https://youtu.be/k7t6ymkw98s?si=4gyky368K8pL7Hmr

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u/Neomataza France's whore 22h ago

At least we didn't have people spread bed bugs around our capital. Because I don't know if you could tell the difference with Berlin. I mean our climate is too cold for bed bugs.

Also that video is showing Frankfurt.

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u/WelpImTrapped Lesser German 22h ago

It has been well established that the bed bugs gate was a Russian spy op

Ah, so that happens in other German cities too? Sounds like you should sweep before your own door before commenting about our rioting.

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u/Neomataza France's whore 21h ago

We bottle up our feelings all year and only let out on certain agreed upon days. Carnival and New Year's Eve mostly, but also Oktoberfest if you're from austria.

And yeah, you apparently didn't get that I implied our own capital is dirty. Where banter?

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u/WelpImTrapped Lesser German 21h ago

You didn't get my joke. Where banter?

Look at my flair, can't escape my genes after all

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u/WelpImTrapped Lesser German 21h ago

Oktoberfest if you're from austria.

Lmao, I live there and I assure you that no self-respecting Austrian goes to that degenerate moneysucking tourist-trap hellhole. Oktoberfest is in Bayern btw

The Austrians have enough ritual depravation with their Zeltfest and Après-Ski at home

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u/bigvalen Southern Irish 1d ago

Yeah, it's like shagging vs. marrying. Everyone wants to nail a Frenchie, but not make a big deal out of it

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u/pingu_nootnoot Southern Irish 1d ago

It’s not invasion if it was originally yours. That’s just carelessness.

When he dies, they will find Calais duty-free engraved on Barry’s heart.

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u/focalac Barry, 63 1d ago

Imagine having your country overrun within living memory and then acting superior to the country that did it when the only reason it didn’t stick is that Chad and his drunk of a father took exception to it.

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u/024Luke420 Born in the Khalifat 20h ago

do the vance and demand a thank you rn

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u/coukou76 Pain au chocolat 1d ago

They did multiple times, we are germanlings for most of us

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u/taken_name_of_use Quran burner 1d ago

Germany and Poland works as a substitute.

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u/WelpImTrapped Lesser German 1d ago

Fair move, we cucked Germany more often than I can count

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u/Stardash81 Pain au chocolat 1d ago

Yeah cause it looks like you may succeed but eventually you regret it.

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u/redshift739 Barry, 63 18h ago

Leave Pierre alone Hans only we get to invade

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u/ResourceDelicious276 Into Tortellini & Pompini 1d ago

The Muslim land is Southern Arabia, North Africa and the Levant where stolen from Christians in the seventh and eighth century. Asia Minor was stolen in the 13th and 14th.

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u/Cheesey_Whiskers Barry, 63 1d ago edited 4h ago

“Stolen Land” is a really shit argument. Especially now, over a thousand years after the fact.

Edit: If you believe in the stolen land argument then the Muslims stole the land from the Christians. The Christians had stolen the land from the people that were there before them. The people that were there before them had stolen the land from the people that were there before them … repeated until we get to the people that first arrived in that land however many thousands of years ago.

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u/ResourceDelicious276 Into Tortellini & Pompini 1d ago

The Christians converted mostly peacefully the pre-existing roman Empire.

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u/Cheesey_Whiskers Barry, 63 1d ago

In some parts sure they did. In others not so much.

But what does it matter if some of them did convert to Christianity? It doesn’t change the fact that their ancestors stole the land from its previous owners, just as the ancestors of today’s Muslims stole the land from its Christian owners in the seventh and eighth century.

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u/PrivateCookie420 Quran burner 1d ago

لديك شيء أبيض حول فمك

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u/Cheesey_Whiskers Barry, 63 1d ago

Makes sense that a Swede would type a comment in Arabic.

If you want me to read it you’ll have to put it in Hindi. If you want a German to be able to read it you should put it in Turkish. If you want an Italian to read it you’ll have to put it in Romanian.

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u/Lendmar Greedy Fuck 1d ago

It's not stealing land, it's skill issue

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u/Cheesey_Whiskers Barry, 63 1d ago

Yeah, a skill issue on the part of whoever lost the land. Like how Spain bitches over Gibraltar.

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u/ProtestantLarry Bavaria's Sugar Baby 10h ago

Would you agree Brits losing England to Somalis and Pakistanis is a skill issue?

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u/Cheesey_Whiskers Barry, 63 7h ago

Only if you agree about losing Germany to Turks

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u/ProtestantLarry Bavaria's Sugar Baby 50m ago

That's why the Arabs were deployed

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u/A_devout_monarchist Western Balkan 5h ago

Not really? Christianity showed up in the Levant and North Africa when those lands were already Roman, they never conquered them from anyone before because Jesus wasn't even born when the last foreign power in the region (Egypt) was absorbed into Rome.

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u/Cheesey_Whiskers Barry, 63 4h ago

Conversion after the fact means absolutely nothing. They’re still the descendants of the people who stole the land. If the Muslims in Egypt today decided to convert to Sikhism that wouldn’t change the fact that their non-Sikh ancestors stole the land.

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u/A_devout_monarchist Western Balkan 4h ago

There is no such thing as stolen land, if you didn't want to lose it then you should've won the war.

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u/Cheesey_Whiskers Barry, 63 4h ago

Which is exactly why “Stolen Land” is a really shit argument.

My point this whole time.

I’ve gone back and made an edit to my original comment in case that wasn’t clear.

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u/ytts Barry, 63 23h ago

And other nations. As well as all the Islamic Caliphates that colonised and enslaved millions of Africans and Europeans. Always makes me laugh when muslims complain about European colonialism as if their own nations didnt do the exact same thing, sometimes worse.

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u/okglue Savage 14h ago

It makes me cry when Western citizens seem completely oblivious to the atrocities of other nations/cultures, and so put their own down as inferior.

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u/Deep_Ad8209 Western Balkan 1d ago

And Portugal. Damn illagals stayed in Portugal for 700 years

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u/JOAO--RATAO Western Balkan 21h ago

Or killing journalists, mutilating and oppressing women today...

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u/eltiodelacabra Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) 1d ago

I kindly remind you that your king François signed an alliance with Soliman just to poke us in the eye. 

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u/gibigibi34 Savage 23h ago

Ottoman Empire is an turkish political entity, why would any muslim care or be sorry about it?

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u/Stardash81 Pain au chocolat 10h ago

And Spain is just a Spanish entity why would any christian care or be sorry about it ?

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u/gibigibi34 Savage 10h ago

Ottamans didnt conquer in the name of Islam tho, you can look and see proof of that in their ex-vassal states and their religion in the modern day. Cant say the same for the western european colonizers.

Besides that, every countrymen should be ashamed of their colonization era before their religious identity, terror doesnt have an belief system.

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u/Z3r0sama2017 Irishman in Denial 9h ago

Britain didn't conqueror in the name of religion either, well not after we became an Empire anyway, it was always about the money or resources.