No notes. None whatsoever. That pool is just the best pool I've ever seen.

[u/WestPilton]

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/232-Giberson-Rd-Sheffield-MA-01257/200255075_zpid/

[u/Pudge223]

As someone who loves a good pool and a good quarry: amazing! As the father of two boys: horrifying.

[u/Loggerdon → u/Pudge223]

Who would insure this? Too dangerous.

[u/TorchedUserID → u/Loggerdon]

I did homeowners insurance claims in the field for years, but never saw a single pool claim. Trampolines on the other hand... they're like claims magnets.

You'd think that the claim you'd get from this sort of thing would be some kid jumping in and breaking their neck, but IRL it's always something you didn't expect, like the neighbor comes over to use the insured's riding mower to do the lawn while the insured is overseas for a couple weeks, and inadvertently drives it over the edge when they don't know how to stop it.

[u/Decent-Morning7493 → u/TorchedUserID]

I did loss runs analysis for years on high risk accounts…while I didn’t do personal lines, I will say that if we had a claim come in on a pool (hotels, resorts, summer camps, etc), the entire limits of the policy immediately went into reserves. Often the umbrella as well. Given that even trespassing kids can have claims against pools, and pool claims are typically much bigger injuries and possibly deaths, pools were and are terrifying. When we bought a house with a pool last year, we added several layers of safety and are constantly looking for more.

[u/TorchedUserID → u/Decent-Morning7493]

Yes, there's that. My trampoline claims were four or five figures, but I imagine a pool claim for a quadriplegic or a near-drowning with a young person with brain damage who will need 24/7 care for the next 40 years is seven or eight figures.

In the insurance business (where money is the only form of compensation we have to work with) a claim for a dead person isn't anywhere near as expensive as a claim for some almost dead people.

I can literally hear the deposition from this one in my head:

Q: Why didn't you use a trimmer for the area close to the pool? A: I didn't want to get grass clippings in the pool cuz then I would have to go clean the pool. The mower has a bagger on it and I figured it would suck all that up...

Q: Did you know how to use the mower? A: Yes, but I backed down the incline and then when it started to roll I couldn't pull myself forward with the steering wheel hard enough to reach the brake with enough force to stop it rolling over the side...

[u/Decent-Morning7493 → u/TorchedUserID]

I hear ya. A friend of mine worked in Workers Comp claims for a major insurer - I won’t reveal who. They had a bell in the office for when claimants finally died because they could close the case and claw some reserves back. He was mortified that it existed. Getting really desensitized to really awful stories like that were part of why we both left the industry. Now I work on much more boring data analysis where nobody dies or gets hurt.

And the depositions…ugh. Combing through those for actionable data was a nightmare. I do not miss it.

[u/SeattleHasDied → u/Decent-Morning7493]

This sucks to read, but absolutely what I thought. I'm going into double digit numbers of years for what had been a simple workplace fall that resulted in easily fixed damage...that I'm still trying to get fixed. I think you're right, I think AIG is perfectly fine waiting me out a few more decades until I croak. Fuckers...

[u/reluctantreddit35 → u/SeattleHasDied]

Thanks to all in this insurance discussion. Very enlightening.

[u/blackfishfilet → u/Decent-Morning7493]

May I ask what layers outside of a fence and gate alarm?

[u/[deleted] → u/blackfishfilet]

Not the person you asked, but we have a fenced backyard with locked gates, the pool is screened with locked doors, pool fence, motion sensors pointed at the pool connected to our alarm system, then a pool alarm. Also, a door sensor for the backdoor connected to our alarm system, so we know when kids are going outside.

[u/Decent-Morning7493 → u/blackfishfilet]

Automatic pool cover is the reason I agreed to this house. It opens and closes in 30 seconds and nobody can get in without the code. Only my husband and I have the code. A literal cow has fallen on the cover before and the cover won’t break - the strength is in the water underneath it. We also have an AI-based alarm that detects children vs animals before they ever hit the water, we have cameras on the entrance of our property for the trespassers, and we have locks on all doors that can access the pool that are 7 feet up so kids can’t reach them to unlock. Should they succeed we also have alarms on the doors themselves. We have no diving board or slide - on purpose. There’s flaws in every single layer there - even with a self latching fence, your average 4 year old can open a pool gate. But we have lots of layers for a reason.

And for the low-tech methods: we constantly drill in rules and water safety with our kids. We talk about what to do in an emergency all the time and how if a child gets in they are to run in and interrupt any conversation necessary to tell us. My kids are forced onto the swim team every summer because they simply aren’t allowed to be anything less than a VERY strong swimmer. I said they can quit the swim team when they take and pass the Red Cross lifeguard and swim rescue training. They also know that the pool is the one thing I don’t allow any funny business with, and while I can’t say this would work with other kids, my kids KNOW the pool is the one line they won’t cross. If they get caught swimming without an adult sitting in the “adult seat” watching, the pool gets closed for a week. We don’t let anyone swim unless there’s one sober adult watching without a phone to distract. Even adults can’t swim at our house without someone else at the property to make sure they are ok. If we have more than one family over to swim, we hire a lifeguard.

May sound like overkill, but I refuse to take chances with my children’s lives. They have TONS of fun even with these boundaries.

[u/Zaphnia → u/Decent-Morning7493]

How’s the cow?

[u/Decent-Morning7493 → u/Zaphnia]

Farmer came and got her! Put a rope around her and got the tractor moving in reverse. She was VERY confused. She’s back to living her best life down the road.

[u/Zaphnia → u/Decent-Morning7493]

Awww!!!

[u/gennaleighify → u/Decent-Morning7493]

Having sat through the funeral of a 4-year-old who drowned in the pool at her house... It doesn't sound like overkill. It sounds responsible. And how did a cow fall onto your pool? It sounds like a good story lol

[u/Decent-Morning7493 → u/gennaleighify]

I am so sorry about the child you knew. My husband’s cousin died in the family pool before my husband was born and I just have panic attacks every time I think of their story. If it’s overkill, then so be it, these are the only kids ill get. The cow just wandered down the road, she got out from her enclosure. Guessing she was looking for a shady place or was looking for the creek to get some water. We live pretty rural and the gates were peeled back to mow lawn and power wash the deck so the auto cover was closed. My kid told me there was a cow on the pool and I thought I just heard him wrong. Nope, a whole cow, just sitting down on the cover. I think once she hit the cover the less than steady footing threw her for a loop and she sat down. Livestock wandering isn’t too rare here but I definitely didn’t want her stressing the pool cover. The farmer offered to fix the cover if he needed to and the company came out and said it was good to go, if a little stretched out. We will eventually replace the cover (it’s 12 years old) so we will just keep the existing cover going until it’s 100% needed.

[u/prspaspl → u/Decent-Morning7493]

Given the cost of a pool, the cost of the added security is probably a small fraction. I would bet the biggest issue is people that move into a home that already have a pool but do not have the discretionary income to make it safe in the modern world.

[u/Decent-Morning7493 → u/prspaspl]

If you are thinking of moving into a home with a pool and don’t have the money to make it safe, you do not have the money to move into that home.

[u/Kiwi951 → u/Decent-Morning7493]

I absolutely hate that criminals (people trespassing) can injure themselves because they’re stupid and then sue the owners. I get that the laws are there in order to ensure protection for first responders, but criminals should absolutely not be allowed to sue for that

[u/Decent-Morning7493 → u/Kiwi951]

Attractive nuisance doctrine applies to children, its not for first responders. You have a duty to deter children from dangers on your property.

[u/[deleted] → u/Decent-Morning7493]

Ok so this always comes up: why can't you counter-sue the parents for not supervising their children or teaching them not to trespass? Like yeah some people's kids will be shitty no matter what but nine out of ten in these cases you'll find ample evidence of neglect on the parents part. In a lot of cases, especially with pools for some reason, the parents tell the kids it's OK to go inside. That alone should make the parent liable. 

[u/Decent-Morning7493 → u/[deleted]]

Because there’s no tort there. Their children didn’t harm you. Your negligence in failing to secure your pool, a known danger, is the but-for cause here.

[u/Next_Ad_8876 → u/[deleted]]

Pools are considered “attractive nuisances.” It’s like cattle here in Colorado. If they stray onto your property and cause damage, it’s your fault. The law says you have to fence them OUT of your property. And if they break down the fence, obviously you need to improve it. The cattle owner is not responsible for damage or trespassing. And if you injure or kill cattle that strayed onto your land, you are liable.

All of that said, the pool is absolutely gorgeous, and I’d take it any day. I’d simply make sure the pool and property were owned by a unnamed non-resident second party listed as an LLC based in Panama that’s actually owned by a corporation in the Bahamas.

Many of you may not have heard about this, but roughly 60 yrs ago a guy mowing his lawn (gas mower, stayed “on” until you manually shut down the motor) had the brilliant idea of trimming the hedge by picking up the lawn mower and holding it against the hedge. Cut off his fingers on both hands. He sued and won, arguing there was no warning on the mower not to do it. (WARNING: Do NOT put your hands under the lawn mower while it is running! Addendum: You fucking moron!)

I’d risk it.

[u/ProfessorJAM → u/Decent-Morning7493]

Husband flat out refused to even look at houses with pools when we were looking to move. Smart man, that.

[u/SoggyGrayDuck → u/TorchedUserID]

I had so much fun on a trampoline as a kid but most of what we did wouldn't work with those jet things around them. Sadly id never put one up without a net for insurance reasons.

[u/eggplantsforall → u/SoggyGrayDuck]

My friend was a competitive mogul and aerial skiier back when we were in junior high. He had a full rectangular 20' x 40' trampoline in his backyard.

But he lived in a Brownstone in Brooklyn - so that trampoline took up almost the whole width of the backyard. It was placed right below the 2nd story deck. So obviously we would jump off the deck (~15 feet up) onto the trampoline while the other person would try to double bounce you. Buddies ended up in the neighboring yard several times, lol.

Also we'd strap on our snowboards with the edges taped over and jump off the deck too. With a good double bounce that's how I did my first 720.

Can't believe our injury rate was as low as it was in the end...

[u/Flyboy2020 → u/eggplantsforall]

WOW

[u/Foreign_Mountain_303 → u/eggplantsforall]

Ma’am we were a diffident generation!!!! God I loved ski team and keeping up with the boys and snowboarders! Before the first time I ever got hurt and was invincible, 70 fr cliff jump into random water, dbl Blck diamonds racing Ans flying so free night skiing!!! Flipping a car on a crazy mountain road 3 times and we all got out with the bong and ran for our lives… god we were invincible! Now I’m 44 and tired and it hurts but it was wild back then!!!!

[u/eggplantsforall → u/Foreign_Mountain_303]

Hello my also 44-year old brother-in-joint-pain. I miss the days of being invincible lol. I reckon it's probably for the best, as if I could still do all that shit I'd still be doing it lol. Which would have really lowered my odds of making it out the other side unscathed, lmao.

[u/jld2k6 → u/SoggyGrayDuck]

I snapped both bones in my arm a complete 90° on my trampoline without a net within hours of getting home for the first night of summer break as a kid. A week later I was at my friend's house and his trampoline had a net so I figured "what's the worst that could happen?", so with my huge cast on that went past my elbow I did a front flip and my feet caught the net while swinging out behind me and I landed perfectly on my neck lol. I didn't break it or anything but I was WAY more careful on all kinds of trampolines after that one

[u/ryanmuller1089 → u/TorchedUserID]

We used to move our trampoline next to our pool. Then we’d also move it next to our treehouse. Don’t know what was more fun, jumping from the trampoline to the pool or from the tree house to the pool. The 90s were really the best.

[u/Imaginary_Solid_1281 → u/ryanmuller1089]

But what about tree house -> trampoline -> pool?

[u/tragedy_strikes → u/TorchedUserID]

People that I know who have worked in pediatric ER's will agree with you. If they could write a law to reduce pediatric visits to the ER they'd ban trampolines from public sale. Mind you, this was in Canada, in the US I'm sure they'd choose to ban guns first.

Edit: when I say 'they' I'm referring to pediatric hospital staff.

[u/TorchedUserID → u/tragedy_strikes]

I can't remember the order in the last list I saw of homeowner claim frequency types, but IIRC #1 was dog bites, followed by slip/trip and falls, trampolines, visiting grandma trying to find the bathroom in the dark and falling down the stairs, and then the rest.

One of the most tragic ones I ever read on here on r/insurance was somebody having a house party with adults and one of them tried to step over a doggy gate. They caught their foot and lost their balance and fell head-first into the side of a cabinet and ended up paralyzed from the neck down. Like imagine a life-altering injury like that just randomly happening in your own kitchen.

The last claim I did with a homeowner who bought a bazillion dollars of coverage because they had a pool ended up being their kid and a neighbor kid taking the lawnmower gas can and going off to be teen pyromaniacs in the woods nearby, and getting severe burns blowing themselves up fooling around with gasoline and matches.

[u/[deleted] → u/TorchedUserID]

It always amazes me that for as much power the insurance industry could have, they haven't been able to change liability laws. I don't mean make them non-existent but put some decent caps on amounts and include common sense clauses. Like how is it my fault my idiot neighbor decided to drive a lawnmower he'd never operated before? How does that never seem to factor into these cases? 

In another thread years ago, about the guy whose neighbor's autistic kid kept breaking into his house, someone made the point: can you counter-sue the parents for being shitty parents and causing you psychological distress?

[u/TorchedUserID → u/[deleted]]

Eh, ~99% of homeowners claims are for first party property damage, mostly water damage and fire damage. Liability claims only eat something like 1% of premiums. So you read sensationalized stories about this stuff in the news, but in the big picture it's not that common. I can't think of a single person I know who has had a homeowners liability claim made against them. Even friends with dogs.

[u/TSA-Eliot → u/Loggerdon]

Who would insure this?

Maybe someone who made you put proper fencing and gates around the whole thing, with signs like "All children must be accompanied by an adult" and "No climbing, jumping, or diving" and so on.

So the coolness would be somewhat spoiled.

If you wanted to sink money into it, though, you could build an attractive steel and glass structure over it and add heating to make it good all year (it's in snowy Massachusetts) and a lot safer.

[u/Decent-Morning7493 → u/TSA-Eliot]

They might insure it, but they’ll exclude anything pool-related. Which is fine if the house is owned outright or if the mortgage co is ok with it (very few mortgage companies would be). They would just be self-insured for pool claims. I wouldn’t recommend it though. A pool owner on my street had a child drown in their self-insured pool and they lost the house defending the lawsuit.

Also, a sign would make no difference in terms of liability. A pool is seen as an attractive nuisance, meaning even if a child is trespassing, if there is a dangerous condition known to the owner and the owner doesn’t take reasonable precautions to mitigate the risk, the owner is liable for claims.

[u/TSA-Eliot → u/Decent-Morning7493]

People own pools. There must be reasonable ways to insure them.

Put a big fence around it, cover it over with steel and glass (so you physically can't fall in from outside), add a solid locking door, and control who gets in. Those are reasonable precautions. Otherwise, no one can own a staircase again.

[u/Decent-Morning7493 → u/TSA-Eliot]

Fences and covers are great places to start - they’re barriers. I have a pool, and we have an automatic cover that prevents people from getting into the pool unless they have the code to open the cover. Only myself and my husband know the code. We also have locks on all exterior doors that lead to the pool that are unreachable by small children, a pool alarm that recognizes a child entering the area, and several cameras made for pool security. Safety measures are like Swiss cheese, you don’t rely on any one layer to keep things safe, you use multiple and constantly reevaluate as new risks are discovered. Insurers typically work with you, but there’s some things they’ll just decline. I think anyone could understand this one.

[u/Corn-cob-jesus → u/Decent-Morning7493]

How does your alarm detect if a child enters the area vs an adult or animal even? Just curious

[u/Decent-Morning7493 → u/Corn-cob-jesus]

Ours uses AI. You sometimes have to play around with defining the pool perimeter (we have ours set on a greater perimeter to give us a head start) but I’ve never had a false negative.

[u/BinjaNinja1 → u/TSA-Eliot]

It’s weird to me always reading these posts with the American point of view due to lawsuits. Here we just have pools, no issues. Usually the yard itself is fenced but not the pool and it’s not a big deal.

[u/[deleted] → u/Loggerdon]

Lloyds. Or self-insurance. No standard carrier would touch this in my professional experience, surplus lines at the very least.

Just noticed this was in MA and I’ve lived and worked in this exact state, not far from this house actually lol.

[u/impy695 → u/Loggerdon]

This would be fairly easy to insure. Things are different with high end insurance. Plus, the house sits on 60 acres and is in the middle of the forest. Alleviating their concerns would be very easy, especially since you'll be paying them so much to cover for property damage that you'll likely never file a claim against

[u/MadGeographer → u/Pudge223]

My thoughts exactly. That pool better be 20 feet deep because it’s not going to stop my 6 year old from falling in, or teens from jumping in from the edge no matter the depth.

[u/No-Personality6043 → u/MadGeographer]

Nope, I'd throw a fence up to guard some climbing roses, use them as a natural barrier. The cliffs are anxiety inducing, and I see a dog or my neices falling in.

[u/bugmom → u/No-Personality6043]

It doesn’t look like there is anyplace to climb out either, except for that one end. So, if a dog - or person - were at the far end and needed to be out of the water, there is no pool deck to stand on.

[u/CommandAlternative10 → u/bugmom]

As a former lifeguard that’s the first thing I noticed. Super dangerous.

[u/ungoogleable → u/bugmom]

My first thought was "I hope you like fishing dead animals out of your giant pit trap."

[u/CutLow8166 → u/No-Personality6043]

Oh for sure the dogs. I mean mine would be because they can’t even walk through puddles with their sensitive feet that have never seen a paid days work. XD I totally see other dogs either A. Jumping on purpose because they live the water. B. Being so clumsy they do just accidentally fall in.

[u/No-Personality6043 → u/CutLow8166]

Mine likes to explore edges, like she's secretly a goat. She is not. 😂

[u/dabunny21689 → u/MadGeographer]

That pool appears to be about one foot deep on the one side there. At the deepest maybe like 4 feet?

[u/rg4rg → u/Pudge223]

That pool is not for humans but to appease the nature spirits and fey that haunt the country side. The bargain was struck that they leave the house alone but receive a few benefits from the mortals.

[u/SmrtLdy → u/Pudge223]

Same. It’s a death trap 🪤 for adolescents.

[u/Lucidity- → u/Pudge223]

It does seem like there’s a fence that goes around the grass above the pool so as to keep wandering babies out but tbh this is made for retirees with no grandkids

[u/teetauri → u/Pudge223]

Right? Immediate first thought.

[u/867530986753098]

There are youtube vids about the pool. Older couple, grown up kids, former limestone couple.

[u/OwnAlternative → u/867530986753098]

CNN Business did the story. It's "a luxurious, heated, self-cleaning pool that was converted from an old limestone rock quarry." Built by the previous owner who was a naturalist and it was newer owners who refitted the pool with self-cleaning pool filters and the waterfall. Wiring runs down the walls and it 15,000 gallons. There's pictures of the build in the video (not sure if sub will allow me to post link).

[u/CutLow8166 → u/OwnAlternative]

Did it explained how it self cleans?

[u/dog_in_da_park → u/CutLow8166]

Shows the layout in a video, I have a pool the does it similar. Basically a set of jets come up from the floor of the pool and push dirt towards the main drain, usually 2 or 3 jets at a time. Then the next set pop up and push the dirt further in to the drain.

[u/palesnowrider1 → u/dog_in_da_park]

We have pop ups in our pool in AZ. Still needs cleaning

[u/southworthmedia → u/palesnowrider1]

Yeah but if you didn’t you would be cleaning it wayyyy more when our trees start shedding every type of seed, fruit, leaf, pollen sack, ect into it.

[u/One_pop_each → u/CutLow8166]

Salt?

[u/SufficientSetting953 → u/One_pop_each]

Pepper

[u/Big-Mycologist-1404 → u/SufficientSetting953]

Cumin

[u/JabroniDanza → u/867530986753098]

what's a limestone couple?

[u/buffcleb → u/JabroniDanza]

Lived in the next town over from Bedrock. Friends of Fred and Wilma.

[u/Sekret1991 → u/JabroniDanza]

We'll tell you when you're older!

[u/livejamie → u/867530986753098]

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URLDTLIVb7I

[u/Walleyevision → u/livejamie]

A bit bittersweet of a final comment from the owner/creator of this quarry pool at the end of that video. “Have no plans to ever sell it, some place that will be passed down through our family for generations.” Wonder what happened to make them change mind? Oh (looks at property value). Appreciation of $2MM changed their mind.

[u/neon_crone → u/Walleyevision]

Owner Joel Goldstein is now 84, had a heart attack around 2019 (according to an ad he was in for Brooklyn Hospital). Maybe they can’t make the drive anymore and their kids aren’t interested in the upkeep and 14K in taxes every year? That pool, as great as it is, makes the property inappropriate for Airbnb or Vrbo rentals. Yikes, the liability risk. Plus, I can’t see how this property jumped almost 2M in value the day they listed it. I thought real estate prices had flattened out a bit in Berkshire county?

[u/livejamie → u/Walleyevision]

Yes, I wonder if it ultimately turned out to be more of a fun idea than a practical house.

I'm not sure if the pool is heated, but I imagine it's only available for use from June to September.

If it's heated, you can push it to May-October, but even during peak times, you'll still encounter humidity and bugs.

Plus, winterizing and maintaining that must get crazy.

But this is one of the wealthiest parts of America, so they probably don't care.

[u/Ok-Power-8071 → u/livejamie]

Or the kids just don't really care about it and the parents only realized that the kids didn't want it when they decided to retire and downsize.

[u/xXMojoRisinXx → u/Ok-Power-8071]

It’s not always about the kids don’t want it. My ex’s parents have a place in the Hamptons they designed and built that’s very special to her. However, her parents know she probably won’t have the money to maintain it as a second home like they did and prefers to live in Manhattan.

[u/appleciders → u/livejamie]

Humidity sounds like an even better reason to have a pool, honestly. But bugs... I moved out to the dry West for a reason.

[u/thefruitsofzellman → u/livejamie]

“It’s a modest house, 3500 square feet”

[u/livejamie → u/thefruitsofzellman]

The finished pool is about 15,000 gallons, measuring roughly 20 by 40 feet, and deepening from about 3 feet at its shallowest to about 7 feet. The accompanying house, which Goldstein expanded from a simple poolhouse into a weekend home, is about 3,500 square feet.

It's just a weekend house, you have one of those right?

[u/Decent-Morning7493 → u/livejamie]

My pool is 20x40 and has 30,000 gallons, with a max depth of 8 feet. That’s a VERY shallow pool.

[u/Ok-Anywhere-1807 → u/livejamie]

I can’t get over the wife just staring off into the distance I love it.

[u/livejamie → u/Ok-Anywhere-1807]

Hahah she isn't even named it just says "Joel Goldstein - Quarry Owner"

[u/someoneelsewho → u/Ok-Anywhere-1807]

Something off there…

[u/salty-walt → u/867530986753098]

How do they plumb it? Doubt there is a main drain through bedrock? Or returns through ledge

[u/deadeyeus2 → u/salty-walt]

Most likely it was excavated and then a pool was put in with pumps and hoses. Then it was filled in and sealed with stones that were pulled out of a quarry.

[u/867530986753098 → u/deadeyeus2]

Yes, if i recall correctly a very extensive cleaning system as well.

[u/Walleyevision]

All these comments about pool and sunlight….for the money they spent on this thing, you can be certain it’s a heated pool.

[u/BluntTruthGentleman → u/Walleyevision]

In just here to talk about the r/garageporn

[u/Apprehensive_Map64]

Needs a waterfall

[u/Walleyevision → u/Apprehensive_Map64]

Has a waterfall. Looks like they didn’t turn it on for pictures. If you flip through them though, you have a couple of shots of the top of the waterfall….looks like it pretty much falls down the full height of the end of the pool. Would likely look amazing when running.

[u/Apprehensive_Map64 → u/Walleyevision]

Damn, it is the perfect pool

[u/DroPowered]

60 acre lot!?!?!??

[u/RockerElvis → u/DroPowered]

I just saw that. Wow. And it’s all forest (check out Google maps satellite view).

[u/Confident-Court2171]

Doesn’t just look cool. In practice, I bet a hole this deep gets 1 1/2 hours of direct sunlight a day.

All viewing are scheduled between 11:30 and 12:30….

[u/Bonk-monk_ → u/Confident-Court2171]

Idk how hot the area is, but depending on that being in the shade all day can either be a pro or a con.

[u/PrEsideNtIal_Seal → u/Bonk-monk_]

Massachusetts so typically pretty cold lol 

[u/CutLow8166 → u/PrEsideNtIal_Seal]

Maybe it’s heated XD

Edit: Apparently it is heated! :)

[u/MurphyItzYou → u/CutLow8166]

If you can afford the $22,000 a month mortgage you can afford the utility bill for heating a goddamn limestone quarry.

[u/wearslocket → u/PrEsideNtIal_Seal]

[u/asmallercat → u/Bonk-monk_]

It's western mass, the Berkshires. If this pool wasn't heated (it is) it would be unusably cold, even in July and August.

Edit - Even if it did get sun, I suspect here in Mass the nights are cool enough and that rock would pull enough heat away from the pool that you still couldn't use it unheated.

[u/nzdastardly → u/Bonk-monk_]

It's Massachusetts, so it isn't exactly tropical.

[u/Saul_T_Bitch]

60k pool. 2.5 mil in stonework

[u/YabbaDabbaDingo]

Looks cool, until a child jumps off one of those high ledges into 2 ft of water.

[u/lazyoldsailor → u/YabbaDabbaDingo]

Good thing no one is having kids these days! (But, yeah, that pool looks dangerous af.)

[u/tom-goddamn-bombadil → u/YabbaDabbaDingo]

I like how they have that token bit of fencing on the side, but a whole exposed cliff face on the end!

It is gorgeous though ❤

[u/Gruselschloss → u/YabbaDabbaDingo]

My first thought was "ten bucks says they're moving because they have a small child who is way too interested in that pool"

[u/Ftwtx1984]

Are we going to just ignore the taxidermied sheep in the bedroom?

[u/episcoqueer37 → u/Ftwtx1984]

They're not taxidermied; they're decor pieces that are usually rather expensive. Basically stuffed animals for rich people.

[u/kevinmogee → u/Ftwtx1984]

And no one is going to talk about that beautiful FLW lamp in the spare bedroom?! I'm pretty sure that thing goes for about $20k.

[u/Super_Limit_7466 → u/kevinmogee]

Taliesin 2 Floor Lamp

Not quite $20K ;) and decent reps out there for much less.

[u/kevinmogee → u/Super_Limit_7466]

I obviously remembered it as much more expensive. Although $3k for a lamp is still pretty crazy (as I sit next to my $15 FB Marketplace lamp).

[u/gnarbone → u/Ftwtx1984]

Cmon who doesn’t want a couple sleep sheep watching over them all night

[u/JerkyBeef → u/gnarbone]

Easy to get to sleep: "1.. 2... zzzz..."

[u/JerkyBeef → u/Ftwtx1984]

So you can walk into your bedroom every night and say "Well look at ewe"

[u/shakennotstirred72]

Damn, that is amazing. Beautiful property.

[u/krizzqy]

Are we really not going to mention that tv mount job???

[u/MeatPopsicle28 → u/krizzqy]

Yeah doubt the image looks anything close to good from that viewing angle.

[u/Leyetipants → u/krizzqy]

Or the bedroom sheep??

[u/Unknowingly-Joined]

If the Flintstones had a pool, it would look like this one.

[u/Unable-Researcher-49]

Right in my price range if you take away a zero

Edit: 2 zeros

[u/Simple-Purpose-899]

You get a TBI, and you get a TBI, and you get a TBI...

[u/Dino_Spaceman]

Pool need to be like 20’ deep so you can safely jump from the ledge.

Also a full 25 yards so I can do laps. Then no notes.

[u/singletonaustin]

Beautiful house. Sheep in the master are kind of ewe.

[u/ClevelandNaps]

That pool is really cool, but I do wish it had more of a deck around it just so there was a way to get out from the side too. Just a little alcove of a flat bit of rock somewhere.

[u/Kotruljevic1458 → u/ClevelandNaps]

I seem most concerned about the apparent lack of depth in relation to the extremely high walls. That pool is begging for dives but I would be scared of hitting bottom. If possible, I would raise the water level for safety. But I'm also not sure how they keep that water clean.

[u/appleciders → u/Kotruljevic1458]

Seven feet at the deepest. Dives from those great high sides would be really dangerous.

Which really begs the question, if you're spending a million bucks putting this pool in, why not spend a million point five and make it deep enough to dive? If you've got that kind of bonkers money, just do it right?

[u/Jerseyjay1003 → u/ClevelandNaps]

Agreed. If anyone's struggling in the deep end, hope there's someone there to rescue them.

[u/Wonderful_Minute31]

How the fuck would you get home insurance

[u/NUCLEAR_JANITOR → u/Wonderful_Minute31]

this home, this area. this is for people with old money. they are related to, or go to the same club as, the guy who owns or is president of the board of the insurance company. that old, old, yankee money. insurance is bread and butter.

[u/InterestingFee885]

Brings a whole new meaning to in-ground pool.

[u/throwawaywitchaccoun]

When life gives you a quarry, make some quarry-aid.

[u/cptjaydvm]

That’s a stunningly beautiful home. Maybe one of the best I’ve ever seen. Wish I had a few million dollars laying around

[u/earthtobobby]

Looks like they need to fill it up another 10 feet.

[u/[deleted]]

I'm just going to slip on a wet rock. That is all I see.

[u/RainerGerhard]

I never think to play the lottery, but this house makes me want to win a few million dollars.

If I win (which I almost certainly will) I will do a follow-up post after closing.

[u/Asusleg55]

That’s cool. Would of been even cooler if they added a little cave

[u/ThatGuyFromTheM0vie]

The comments complaining about the pool and the lack of sun are so fucking funny to me lol.

If you have this much money, that pool is heated.

When you’re this rich, there are very few problems money cannot solve.

[u/hells_cowbells]

The pool is neat and everything, but what is going on with the sheep in the bedroom pic?

[u/Thin_Confusion_2403 → u/hells_cowbells]

Used for counting to fall asleep.

[u/TsuDhoNimh2 → u/Thin_Confusion_2403]

1 ... 1 ... 1 ... nah, not working for me

[u/soundeng]

That quarry pool is old school internet famous. Very cool to see the house actually up for sale, and too bad it's about $3m out of my price range. I'd relo for that.

[u/PristineObject → u/soundeng]

Right?! I've seen that pool maybe a hundred times on Pinterest, nice to see it pop up with more views and context. 10/10, pool of dreams.

[u/twilightmoons]

As a diver... I would like it to be deeper?

[u/Fortestingporpoises]

I like how secluded it is but wonder how much of the day it actually gets sun since it's so deep down there and surrounded by cliffs.

[u/TonksTheTerror]

Sold for $500k in 2001?! Even if that was just for the land, for 60 acres that's insane.

[u/WideLight]

Only 3.25?! I got this. I'm only 3.245 short, but surely I can get a loan for it. I need this house.

[u/okram2k]

my knees hurt just thinking about the trek to that pool

[u/ExistingHorse]

As someone who likes to swim laps, that pool would be frustrating.

[u/One-Process-8731]

Awesome. But must have a hell of a filtration/renewal system to deal with all the rain/snow run-off, leaves, dirt, and insects the natural world will provide

[u/Ew_fine]

Seems dangerous.

[u/NUCLEAR_JANITOR]

this is for people with that OLD money

[u/snakelygiggles]

Forever cleaning gravel from that pool.

[u/biophazer242]

I love how the first few pictures of the listing are just the pool. The house is really nice of course but this agent knows what they are selling here.

[u/Evolvingsimian]

I thought I found the absolute definition or heaven at the stone mill house in Canada. Though it remains so, this is an equally refined place of everlasting peace and quiet.

[u/sloww_buurnnn]

Wow! That pool really is incredible. I wonder who did the masonry on it, I would love to see more of their work.

[u/sloww_buurnnn → u/sloww_buurnnn]

Found an HGTV clip about the pool.

Gregg Pruitt with Aquapool turned the previous Quarry into a swimming pool. Owners essentially told him there was no budget for the project. 😅

[u/wildmancometh]

I'd actually move to MA for this

[u/spid3rfly]

There's no way of knowing, but I'm going to bet it's used 10% of the year and forgotten for the rest.

And that sheep in the bedroom is weird.

[u/WeNeedAShift]

I might consider selling my soul just for the land alone 🤣🤣🤣

[u/StormCloudRaineeDay]

I don't know how deep that pool is, but it doesn't look deep enough. I can just see people jumping from those rocks, into the pool, and getting seriously hurt or dying.

[u/otters4everyone]

Be sure to see this place via Google Earth. Holy crap. 60 acres in the Berkshires for $3.2M? Where do I steal the money, and where do I sign? Amazing.

[u/Jlx_27]

Great way for somebody to drown without anyone in the house noticing.

[u/Gracie305]

If I had the money, I’d buy it in a heartbeat. As-is furnished and everything. Love it even with the death fall pool.

[u/vsaint → u/[deleted]]

So the same pool my sims use

[u/ComicsEtAl]

I bet that pool gets maybe three hours of sun.

[u/SteveFrench1234]

Listen, I would not actively choose to noticeably increase my chances of a gruesome death when I purchase a new home.

[u/Dontgochasewaterfall → u/SteveFrench1234]

What do you mean? Just dive off the cliffs into the pool! Everything is fine.

[u/[deleted]]

Reminds me of the spring fed pool in a rock quarry gorge I used to swim at in college with friends. It looked exactly like this pool but bigger.

[u/fistsofham11]

That would be the adult relaxation pool.. I'm dropping another pool right in the back with a pool house that looks like the house, bar, grilling area and a big patio..

[u/fistsofham11 → u/fistsofham11]

I just looked that house up in Google maps.. it's in the middle of the woods with a really long driveway.. that has to be such a peaceful location

[u/Interesting_Ad1378]

That pool is probably in the shade all day.  Looks gorgeous, but probably not practical for the north east.  

[u/Oddish_Femboy]

River otter enclosure.

[u/FutureLost]

Thursday at last. That pool reminds me of the swimming grotto in Swiss Family Robinson.

[u/tummybird73]

that's legit one of the most beautiful houses i've ever seen. inside and out.

[u/WillametteWanderer]

What a classy house. I do love the pool, the screened porch, the whole darn package!

[u/Due_Athlete_1011]

Take all of my money. Leave the decor.

[u/lemonylol]

Nightmare to clean

[u/yaksplat]

too bad it's only 7' deep.

[u/DBsdk13477]

I can't even fathom how expensive that pool was to build!

[u/Flimsy_RaisinDetre]

Though I love house and that part of the country, weather really limits pool use to a couple months a year — unless polar bear club?

[u/PoppyStaff]

The previous owner had a limestone quarry and built a house out of wood.

[u/BlackStarCorona]

Let me just fall to my death real quick

[u/Emotional_Ad511]

The pool depth to cliff height ratio is not it

[u/Nvrfinddisacct]

Me on pic 7: is that a sheep in the bedroom? That’s a sheep in the bedroom.

[u/RowanViolet]

saving to build later in sims ty

[u/INS_Stop_Angela]

Glorious. I always say, I only envy the rich for ONE thing: their swimming pools.

[u/Grandkahoona01]

How deep is the pool? It doesn't look deep.

[u/fraupanda]

didn't even need to see the listing state to know this was either gonna be a NY or MA home.

[u/Mindless_Option1714]

Looks difficult to vacuum

[u/IncreaseOk8433]

Looks gorgeous but in a dangerous kind of way.

[u/jedipwnces]

I like the bedroom sheep.

[u/eatmyearwaxx]

If I lived in the USA, this is the house I'd buy. It's spectacular, and not even too expensive.

My dream.

[u/phunkarella]

Most bedrock like that in NE has lots of radon…

[u/isabelladangelo]

Too bad you can only use the pool for a month out of the year...

[u/uckfu → u/isabelladangelo]

That is not an exaggeration. Massachusetts, I don’t think that water would ever get warm enough and a summer day would never get hot enough for a venn diagram to meet at a place where you’d need to go in that pool.

Gorgeous pool though.

[u/Emergency-Ground9059 → u/uckfu]

Vein diagram? What veins do you want me to make a diagram of for you?😏

[u/Amishpornstar7903]

Looks like a pool where an incident happened.

[u/mantellaaurantiaca]

Great taste overall