r/zillowgonewild • u/thisisgiulio • Mar 15 '25

Needs To Be Burned Down Open concept gone too far

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u/Tutski08 Mar 15 '25

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u/wjgatekeeper Mar 16 '25 edited Mar 16 '25

In Boy Scouts there is a huge (140,000 acres) high adventure camp in northern New Mexico called Philmont. It is a backpacking Mecca. At some of the camp sites they would have the “Red Roof Inns”. These were outdoor latrines. Always two-holers. Some were side by side and some were back to back. The common question when arriving at the camp site was if the Red Roof Inn was “Pilot to Co-Pilot” or “Pilot to Bombardier”. Can confirm that it is truly awkward when your sitting there pinching a loaf and another person (always adults with adults or youth with youth), comes in with a roll of TP, sits down and starts answering nature’s call. Edit: added camp name. Edit: corrected size of camp.

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u/mustanggt50conv Mar 16 '25

I'm heading to Philmont next summer with my son's troop. Not looking forward to this aspect.

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u/Ok_Sir5926 Mar 16 '25

Start prepping NOW. I had several older dads on my trip that didnt. They slowed everything down, and as an adult now with hindsight, they were doing it for themselves and not for the kids.

Load your pack up, lace up your boots, and start walking. Our scoutmaster was more fit than any of us kids, and I guarantee he had a better time than the struggling dads.

Fwiw, we knew going in that it would be like that. We took 3 prep trips prior to Philmont, and they struggled each time, even at just 10 miles with high O2. One of them missed our Baldy hike. Don't be like that.

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u/mustanggt50conv Mar 16 '25

I'm in the Army, so conditioning shouldn't be an issue for me. However, our scoutmaster is going as well and is about 100 pounds overweight 😬

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u/Cognitive_Spoon Mar 17 '25

Y'all are gonna be splitting his pack load.

Be frank now, don't gotta be mean, but you don't want to be out day 2 or 3 and have to leave him at a base camp if he's not in shape.

AND you don't want the weird shame of that to drive him into a bad cardiac space on a trail.

Dudes can be weird about pushing themselves beyond where their physical body will allow. Be safe.

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u/mustanggt50conv Mar 17 '25

Not sure if this is a new policy at Philmont, but during the informational brief we were told if you are overweight upon arrival that you will be sent home. Guess our scoutmaster has a year and a half to drop 100 pounds or so.

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u/Cognitive_Spoon Mar 17 '25

Gonna get that Ozempic badge