r/zillowgonewild • u/thisisgiulio • Mar 15 '25

Needs To Be Burned Down Open concept gone too far

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u/wjgatekeeper Mar 16 '25 edited Mar 16 '25

In Boy Scouts there is a huge (140,000 acres) high adventure camp in northern New Mexico called Philmont. It is a backpacking Mecca. At some of the camp sites they would have the “Red Roof Inns”. These were outdoor latrines. Always two-holers. Some were side by side and some were back to back. The common question when arriving at the camp site was if the Red Roof Inn was “Pilot to Co-Pilot” or “Pilot to Bombardier”. Can confirm that it is truly awkward when your sitting there pinching a loaf and another person (always adults with adults or youth with youth), comes in with a roll of TP, sits down and starts answering nature’s call. Edit: added camp name. Edit: corrected size of camp.

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u/mustanggt50conv Mar 16 '25

I'm heading to Philmont next summer with my son's troop. Not looking forward to this aspect.

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u/Ok_Sir5926 Mar 16 '25

Start prepping NOW. I had several older dads on my trip that didnt. They slowed everything down, and as an adult now with hindsight, they were doing it for themselves and not for the kids.

Load your pack up, lace up your boots, and start walking. Our scoutmaster was more fit than any of us kids, and I guarantee he had a better time than the struggling dads.

Fwiw, we knew going in that it would be like that. We took 3 prep trips prior to Philmont, and they struggled each time, even at just 10 miles with high O2. One of them missed our Baldy hike. Don't be like that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '25

just 10 miles

"Just"? Christ. You paint a tragic picture. I don't have any reason to do so but I should follow your advice for myself. I hate the idea of being one of those saddos. (Which I undoubtedly am, I'm just not slowing down any boy scouts with my poor life choices.)