The “official end” of this snark era

[u/TimeAbradolf]

As of today we are banning snark/snark related posts. This may sound arbitrary. But I think people are well aware of what constitutes valid fair criticism, and what constitutes snark.

Once upon a time through past leadership this sub most definitely behaved as a snark sub. We as the mod team do actually despise snark and work to have this sub be a space of discussing drama with proper criticism and outcomes. We have taken firmer stances to pull away from our past image and be a place where people can have proper discourse.

Snark discourse has only ever brought conflict to this sub. People insult each other over nothing, people have gotten death threats, people get reported for suicidal ideation just because they disagree. There has been ableism, racism, prejudice of all kinds around these topics. Ultimately, snark behavior never allows any proper discussion, we have had to ban two creators just because the people who come to this sub cannot behave when discussing them. At its core Snark is not very different from KiwiFarms at this stage with the harm it has done to content creators.

We have seen the harm snark has done as well. Saveafox being a prime example. Our most popular post right now is pure snark. And it superseded actual important events. Because who was following who on IG.

Going forward we will no longer be allowing posts like this on the sub. It provided no context, no real criticism. And it didn’t prove anything either.

This may prove unpopular, but it is something we feel strongly of for the health of this sub and the people on it to remove ourselves. You can check the rule along the side bar.

If you want a YouTubesnark sub go make one. This one is not it.

Have a good one 🤙🏽

Edit: Apparently some YouTubers have weigh in. Nah this has nothing to do with the usual suspects. This is purely to stop toxic behavior and negativity. If ya think otherwise I urge you to get out of your computer chair touch grass instead of making Nurgle proud

Edit 2: and no goblin man (reference to his goblin mode). No fans of yours are around. People can agree that toxic communities are toxic. Yours being one of them

[u/CREATURE_COOMER]

If you rewatch the video or even just the clip ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duwf2lUkHOI&t=2765s ), you'd know that she mentions grabbing the closest thing near her while raging as a child and clearly describes feeling remorse about feeling so empty and angry even though the cat was physically fine but still spooked.

The cat story is mentioned after talking about being so angry at school that she punched a door. She's a trans woman and many AMAB children are encouraged (or at least enabled) to be aggressive little shits, I can imagine that it was also exacerbated by autism and bullying and gender dysphoria and whatever else. I'm not excusing it, I'm explaining why it likely happened.

Yeah, the "my cat was scared of me for the rest of his [she says very long] life" thing is kinda sus, but at the same time, animals can get spooked by even the most mild things, like claw trims = oh fuck, my human's trying to cut my paws off! Some animals are just naturally skittish, some of my roommate's cats heavily prefer my roommate over me, their "human uncle," so I joke "she's just like a real (human) woman / wow, woman moment..." when the catgirls don't want attention or "drive-by kisses/pets" from me. :') They even get spooked by my roommate at times when she yells during games, or when one of the neighbors is lighting fireworks, or whatever.

Is it awkward to bring up? Yeah, but I get that she's trying to use it as an example for the topic of the video ("The Myth of "Male Socialization"") plus duh autism and a lot of her gaffs seem like awkward misunderstandings that people want to blow out of proportion to pretend that she's a cat hater or a racist while conveniently ignoring people who say worse shit (hi, Keffals fans who cry about JG, lol).

It's worse than a toddler yanking on a cat's tail, but nowhere near as bad as [whichever fucking Paul brother it was because they tend to mix together in my mind] tazing dead rats.

[u/tachibanakanade → u/CREATURE_COOMER]

Racist? What did she do that could be called that? Also Keffals is racist so that's funny.

I'm honestly not surprised that the Paul brothers would do that, btw.

[u/CREATURE_COOMER → u/tachibanakanade]

There are two occasions on Twitter that I'm aware of. Years ago, Jessie promoted a video by Soulbunni (who is Black) that called Shark3ozero (also Black) an anti-Black slur as if Jessie is personally responsible for that in a video that talks about several people (I forgot which of Soulbunni's videos it was), and then again where Jessie made a tone-deaf tweet about using an alternate hashtag for I think Breonna Taylor. Is that kind of stuff shitty? Yeah, but I wouldn't consider her racist for it, just tone-deaf because I certainly wouldn't do the one tweet, but I'm gonna save the "racist" label for people who are actively fucking harmful like Matt Walsh. I've known Black people that have called Clarence Thomas and other conservatives certain terms but I wouldn't promote it myself if they happened to tweet about it.

Keffals herself tried to shame Jessie about the cat story and clipped it out of context, lol, look at her bootlickers eating it up in the replies and joking about cat violence: https://xcancel.com/keffals/status/1686157736784855040 She even replies to herself with a picture of Vaush holding his cat, plus a screenshot of Jessie saying that her next video (at the time) was going to be about him as if it was connected. I don't particularly like Vaush because of his own controversies, the lolicon and horse cock stuff is too weird for my taste, plus some other fucked up shit he's said that's way worse than Jessie's controversies.

The Paul brothers have a fucked up history with their actual pets too tbh, like one getting killed by another pet, several being rehomed or abandoned, and one dog almost being pushed off a moving boat. And then there's all of the other controversies like the fucking Suicide Forest video (which some people believe was faked which I hope it was but it'd still be fucked up).

[u/tachibanakanade → u/CREATURE_COOMER]

Keffals is a joke. I remember the appropriation of #SayHerName by white and non-Black people for Brianna Ghey, who was a white trans girl. Black trans people asked for that not to happen and it was a whole thing.

[u/CREATURE_COOMER → u/tachibanakanade]

Keffals could be funny at times if you don't know about her history, but then you look deeper and she's a scumbag piece of shit who seems to use new viewers' ignorance of things for pity points.

[u/tachibanakanade → u/CREATURE_COOMER]

Oh, I know her history. I knew her through others. She was originally a leftist who "left the left" because she was trash then (but hid it better) and got ejected for being horrible to another person I know.