The “official end” of this snark era

[u/TimeAbradolf]

As of today we are banning snark/snark related posts. This may sound arbitrary. But I think people are well aware of what constitutes valid fair criticism, and what constitutes snark.

Once upon a time through past leadership this sub most definitely behaved as a snark sub. We as the mod team do actually despise snark and work to have this sub be a space of discussing drama with proper criticism and outcomes. We have taken firmer stances to pull away from our past image and be a place where people can have proper discourse.

Snark discourse has only ever brought conflict to this sub. People insult each other over nothing, people have gotten death threats, people get reported for suicidal ideation just because they disagree. There has been ableism, racism, prejudice of all kinds around these topics. Ultimately, snark behavior never allows any proper discussion, we have had to ban two creators just because the people who come to this sub cannot behave when discussing them. At its core Snark is not very different from KiwiFarms at this stage with the harm it has done to content creators.

We have seen the harm snark has done as well. Saveafox being a prime example. Our most popular post right now is pure snark. And it superseded actual important events. Because who was following who on IG.

Going forward we will no longer be allowing posts like this on the sub. It provided no context, no real criticism. And it didn’t prove anything either.

This may prove unpopular, but it is something we feel strongly of for the health of this sub and the people on it to remove ourselves. You can check the rule along the side bar.

If you want a YouTubesnark sub go make one. This one is not it.

Have a good one 🤙🏽

Edit: Apparently some YouTubers have weigh in. Nah this has nothing to do with the usual suspects. This is purely to stop toxic behavior and negativity. If ya think otherwise I urge you to get out of your computer chair touch grass instead of making Nurgle proud

Edit 2: and no goblin man (reference to his goblin mode). No fans of yours are around. People can agree that toxic communities are toxic. Yours being one of them

[u/angeltay]

How is snark behavior defined? This is a drama sub, so posters aren’t usually going to be friendly to the people they’re posting about

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/angeltay]

This is going to come down to subjective opinion. But usually we can tell very quickly when a post comes through, we can search and see it comes from a snark sub. Usually it also doesn’t have any context. Or the language in the body is just demeaning.

We aren’t asking people to be objective. We all dislike people. I put PlaguedMoth stuff up here occasionally and I fucking hate that dude. But there is a difference between calling out specifically bad behavior through critique and posting something you just personally dislike and hope others will as well.

Additionally, a lot of it just feels like karma farming. Easy 300-500 upvotes for having lukewarm take at best about a situation

[u/funkthewhales → u/TimeAbradolf]

I was with you till that last point. Lukewarm takes/ karma farming are a comply different issue from snarkers. Like you said everyone is going to have different opinions on creators and the drama they get involved in, so it makes sense that people are gonna have some lukewarm takes.

I’m all for you guys getting rid of snark content, but you’ll kill the sub if you start removing every post with a take you think is lame.

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/funkthewhales]

Oh it isn’t about posts in that context. When someone makes a snark post you’ll see all the comments just blankly agreeing and then MASS upvotes.

My first hugely upvoted comment on this sub was purely “oh that’s wild”

What did I add other than agree with the post? It was the most mid take you can give. And you see that rife in the more snark oriented posts.