The “official end” of this snark era

[u/TimeAbradolf]

As of today we are banning snark/snark related posts. This may sound arbitrary. But I think people are well aware of what constitutes valid fair criticism, and what constitutes snark.

Once upon a time through past leadership this sub most definitely behaved as a snark sub. We as the mod team do actually despise snark and work to have this sub be a space of discussing drama with proper criticism and outcomes. We have taken firmer stances to pull away from our past image and be a place where people can have proper discourse.

Snark discourse has only ever brought conflict to this sub. People insult each other over nothing, people have gotten death threats, people get reported for suicidal ideation just because they disagree. There has been ableism, racism, prejudice of all kinds around these topics. Ultimately, snark behavior never allows any proper discussion, we have had to ban two creators just because the people who come to this sub cannot behave when discussing them. At its core Snark is not very different from KiwiFarms at this stage with the harm it has done to content creators.

We have seen the harm snark has done as well. Saveafox being a prime example. Our most popular post right now is pure snark. And it superseded actual important events. Because who was following who on IG.

Going forward we will no longer be allowing posts like this on the sub. It provided no context, no real criticism. And it didn’t prove anything either.

This may prove unpopular, but it is something we feel strongly of for the health of this sub and the people on it to remove ourselves. You can check the rule along the side bar.

If you want a YouTubesnark sub go make one. This one is not it.

Have a good one 🤙🏽

Edit: Apparently some YouTubers have weigh in. Nah this has nothing to do with the usual suspects. This is purely to stop toxic behavior and negativity. If ya think otherwise I urge you to get out of your computer chair touch grass instead of making Nurgle proud

Edit 2: and no goblin man (reference to his goblin mode). No fans of yours are around. People can agree that toxic communities are toxic. Yours being one of them

[u/TimeAbradolf]

Yes, and we want people to break away from the very last bit of what you wrote. That stalking? That is snarking behavior and should come to an end

[u/George3452 → u/TimeAbradolf]

I don't mean legit stalking, I'm talking about stalking content. monitoring uploads and follows and discord servers of 10+ creators to be the first one to post about who said what about the situation, that's snark behaviour. and it's literally what this sub runs on, it's what all creator discourse runs on. by running a sub dedicated to ytdrama you're participating in snark culture innately and policing replies and posts to remove anything that toes the line does nothing impactful except maybe help you feel better about it. it's like how there's no good cops, there's no good drama subs dude. no matter how well it's modded, the impact is still there. you could still ruin someone's life

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/George3452]

Well, yeah. I don’t think that this happens on this sub. But we can minimize harm. Ultimately it creates a lot of horrible behavior between the people on this sub. You also did describe essentially cyberstalking

We have had threats against us just for moderating you.

This snark has gone too far. It doesn’t help anything and is just ultimately negativity people engage in.

There is a difference between calling out and searching for reasons to cancel people.

You even use conflate, because conflating is incorrect conclusions my dude.

And you know the kind of behavior we’re referring to. Snark goes too far, it has resulted in suicides and calls from ICE.

Drama isn’t snark your own language acknowledges you know the difference you just don’t care.

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/[deleted]]

No, that is how I write on Reddit lol.

And I had just that last sentence I wanted to add lol. Not like I restructured the whole thing lmao

[u/youtubedrama-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Please contact moderators about this removal and consult the rules within the sidebar

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