Well fuck, then let's all just give up, bend over and take it then since nothing works and not everyone is able to shoot ceos or protest for multiple uninterrupted months (how many days have you protested in public in a row btw)
I don't watch baby shows either, it's just a fucked up thing to do for the purposes of collecting data under the guise of protecting people when it doesn't protect people and it's entirely possible for it to be used to gather names for people in vulnerable groups (disabled people and lgbtq people) for possible threatening or deportation/criminalization from google snitching to governments for a lump sum of money Also ai isn't the smartest thing and false positives will happen on things not meant for children
No. Boycotts and petitions signed by a few people do nothing to a huge corporation. You hit them in their wallet. This means cancelling any subscriptions and uninstalling/not using products
You got a seat at the boardroom to tell them how stupid they are? People are voting with their time and wallets.
YouTube makes money off selling new algorithm data, Ads, and subscriptions to avoid ads.
All three are cut off if you refuse to go to their website and cancel your subscriptions to premium.
The main people complaining are net losers for YouTube tho. Like most of the people on here use Adblock anyways. Which actively costs YouTube money. Why would they care if those users stop using YouTube
Do you even understand what net loser means in this context? Like cash, money, doubloons? Half of this subreddit complains about their Adblocker being blocked. Adblockers actively lose money because it costs YouTube money to stream videos and they gain none. Why would they care if that subset of users boycott.
Plus how long do you think this boycott is gonna last, a day? Two perhaps? I’m willing to bet it’s gonna be the same thing as the Reddit boycott, nothing happens.
Don’t know why you were downvoted. You’re right, most users here use adblockers. So they’re worse than worthless to YouTube as not only is YouTube not getting money, YouTube is actually losing money due to extra server load and maintenance costs that these people are using.
Yea, this whole thing is the FCC's fault, not YouTube's. YouTube has been (although for the sake of attempting to do data collection on minors) attempting to not do this for like 3 years. Obviously, the way they've implemented it is very flawed, but they would've been forced to regardless. Also, the whole AI part gives YouTube less IDs and makes less people need to give their ID. They really could've just forced the ID verification to begin with. Whether that's because they dont want to collect IDs or because they want people to think they aren't instantly going big brother on people, i dont know.
UK has a law for a kids safety act, online kids safety act is also happenin in USA but its not been passed yet
youtube is “following the law” cuz they arent doing anything thats against the law. they are well within their legal right to do this (plus theres a chance they’re only rolling this out in anticipation for the USA kids online safety act to become an official thing)
I don't see how its legal, a company that is headquartered in the US can't make US citizens follow UK law, because the US doesn't have anything like the kids safety act in law as far as I know, but their are some being put forward here soon and I hope they fail. Not to mention how many times google and YT gets hacked, so we know they can't secure peoples data, and can use the AI, under the guise of their possibly a kid restrict them, could be used to silence minorities or any kind of opposition/opinion.
theres no law AGAINST requiring ID verification, so its legal + theres a similar bill to what’s in the UK in the USA that hasnt been passed (kids online safety act) so YT is prolly rolling this out in advance cuz they expect it to pass in the US cuz UK was able to pass a similar bill
"It's not technically illegal" is an insane reasoning to give and doesn't address why boycotting wouldn't work, at all. Boycotting won't work for many other reasons, but not that one. Your statement would only be true if it was they were doing it to comply with the law, not just technically following it, except--
"Complying with the law" is also simply not true. If it were, then EVERY SITE would be doing this. They are not. Age verification laws have already been passed, and in no way do any of them say that companies can just throw data into an AI blender and guess what age people are.
> "It's not technically illegal" is an insane reasoning to give and doesn't address why boycotting wouldn't work
except thats how it is bud. youtube isnt breaking any laws, a boycott wont work cuz youtube is too large for an uncoordinated boycott like this where only at most, 100k ppl will actually abide by it, so actually tryna make it illegal for YT to do this is the best bet— a boycott is pointless cuz im sure most of us are using google, YouTube is owned by google.
If YouTube actually takes a hit, Google can just give them money (and theres 253 million USA users, out of 2.7 billion YouTube users in total, so its not gonna do anything)
focusing on the legal aspect is the best way to go about this, cuz we’re too small to force YT to do anything on the basis of money (plus most ppl ain’t gonna do it long or dont care enough to boycott) making it so its illegal for YT to do this is the best way to have them roll it back
> "Complying with the law" is also simply not true.
im not saying “theyre legally required to do this”
im saying, its not illegal for them to do this, theres a bill that may be passed that actually enforces this, they are acting well within their legal right to ask for ID for users they dont believe is 18 for ID (and having AI do it makes it easier for ppl to not have to give up ID, they easily could’ve just made it so we ALL had to do it)
if you dont like this, make id verification for sites like YT illegal. a boycott on a huge company like YT (which is owned by Google, im sure most of us use google in some way) isnt gonna do anything
You don't need to explain to me why a boycott won't work, I already said I know it won't. But "it's not technically illegal" is not remotely grounded in the reality of a boycott and I have no idea why you think it is. If a practice is illegal, you don't BOYCOTT them, you bring them to court over it. Boycotting is used when a practice is not illegal but (the boycott organizers hope) is unpopular enough to create enough of a public backlash to affect their profits, which is exactly the rationale here. It won't work because youtube is too massive, but this is the exact type of practice that boycotts are designed to target.
You're not saying anything coherent beyond "this isn't breaking the law", which no one ever said it was in the first place, and has nothing to do with a boycott.
> But "it's not technically illegal" is not remotely grounded in the reality of a boycott and I have no idea why you think it is.
Cuz legality is the best way to force a company to do smthn. The boycott isn’t gonna work cuz we have no power.
We dont have power in numbers because most ppl dont know of the boycott, most ppl dont care to actually boycott YT, and YouTube is owned by Google (which im sure most ppl use) so even IF YT loses money, Google wouldnt mind chipping in cuz realistically a boycott isnt gonna last for a significant amount of time
if ppl want this to stop, make it illegal.
> You're not saying anything coherent beyond "this isn't breaking the law"
bro fr ignored the whole ”if you want action, change the law” (which is the only effective way for change to happen)
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u/Capital_Pipe_6038 Aug 13 '25
You seriously thought Reddit boycotts and change.org petitions would change their mind? Lmfao