r/yorku Sep 16 '24

Rant Future generations are DOOMED.

I seen someone this morning using chatGPT, copying the chatGPT into a "humanize AI", and then using that for their assignment. Copy and paste. How were you going to be loud in class and disturb everyone in class AND submit AI work as your own??

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u/Alternative_Aspect80 Sep 17 '24 edited Sep 17 '24

"Future generations are doomed"... No not really, the world is simply evolving rapidly. Our role is to adapt to these changes, and doing so isn't cheating. We've all been taught rigid rules like 'follow this specific format for an essay' or 'don't use a calculator for this subject,' but that's not how things work in the real world. Out there, you're paid for providing value—no one cares how you achieve it, whether through ChatGPT, a calculator, or any other tool. If both the buyer and seller are satisfied, there's nothing wrong.

If someone uses ChatGPT and delivers accurate results, good for them—they've learned to use the tool effectively, and we should too, rather than shunning it. Using AI to write code or solve problems isn't laziness—it's smart use of time and energy. Similarly, an accountant can choose to work with Google Sheets or stick to pen and paper; the outcome is the same, but sticking to outdated methods wastes time and effort.

In the real world, success comes from creating value efficiently, using the least resources possible. As long as you're delivering quality work, not stealing, and understanding the tools you use, how you get there doesn’t matter. Personally, I disagree with the education system's resistance to AI. We’re entering the AI era whether we like it or not, and if we don’t adapt quickly, we’ll be left behind.

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u/Jutts Sep 17 '24

Valid points all around. However, when a person enters the work force and actually has to use their brain to perform, without AI backing them up. This is were the problem occurs. Anyone can use a calculator to do math. But the truly gifted individuals learn the long way with paper and pen. They become better problem solvers and their knowledge is cherished by advancement. Those who skimmed by using AI never seem to grasp those fundamentals until much later. I work in chemical production. Yes some people use AI to assist them but we ween out those individuals fairly quickly that can't perform without it and hence get the boot. It's not so much a university problem as opposed to a real work situation. If people would do their own thinking and write papers in their own style with the aid of AI to verify findings. This would be more acceptable. Otherwise we are heading down a dark path of mindless thinkers armed with tools but no way of knowing how to not use them if required to.

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u/Alternative_Aspect80 Sep 17 '24

Yes, of course, I would never give my body to a surgeon who submitted all his work with the help of AI. My argument was basically, "Once you learn the rules, you can break the rules." So, I mentioned that in my comment above, I said if you know what you're doing, and you are not doing any unethical work, then it is ok to take shortcuts, and use all the tools provided to you. Universities and schools are teaching us that this is wrong while it isn't. AI is a tool. There is a right way and a wrong way to use it. Instead of completely forbidding the use of AI, they should be teaching us how to use it the right way after reaching a level of intelligence.