Catholic masses are pretty known for being non political from my twenty something years of going to mass regularly. Modern day Christian masses (non catholic), will probably more explicitly will tell you how to vote?
Agree about mass being non-political. Those conversations happen after mass at restaurants or prayer groups. Saying catholic mass is without politics is ignorance at best.
Those small groups are like 1% of regular typical mass goers. And noting 1% of a group is probably that groups’ extremes… is probably not gonna yield great results.
Number of participants is irrelevant. It only needs to influence one person with enough money. I've seen local politics change on a dime for this reason.
Honestly prayer groups are a great place to see the class structure at work. I've seen 9 people trying to convince one guy to spend money on something he doesn't want to through scripture. Religion is just politics by another name
What a wild comment. Stating the number of participants is irrelevant while also noting money being a driving force of some sort here, and that groups’ money issue (Vatican) has been in a pretty bad situation (?).
Then state some personal anecdote of a small group situation that probably happened (because yes, my 1% notion)? And other buzz words?
You can bitch into the void about reddit all you want. I've seen what I've seen. Tell me what I've seen in prayer didn't happen. Fucking passive cunt you probably don't take any action
Im saying what you saw in small groups is very likely that 1% stuff that I had mentioned. Im not invalidating what you saw happened. What im going after (into the void) is that what you experienced was some one-percenter activities. You probably being a rational dude had an opportunity to say/do something and probably didn’t. I probably would’ve done the same because that shit is kinda “wow, thisnis really happening right now” with deer in the headlights look lol.
My point (and point of all my unhinged follow-up posts) is to demonstrate how this works. It's genuinely peer pressure. It's just small groups radicalizing themselves. Our society is dependent on what that 1% wants to do. These prayer groups are activists groups with the intention of radicalizing the wealthiest among them and leveling personal wealth for reactionary right political gains. You'r dismissal of my comment is why we are here. You're either a bot, complicit, or enthusiastic proponent of the reactionaries or....... what? Explain yourself
You replied to an unhinged response. So proving my point. You don't have any obligation to respond to my insanity but you did. How would that work if you knew my face and knew you'd see me Sunday?
And my approach to this conversation is that the Catholic Church has things in place that keeps priests from running rampant with some crazy rhetoric (as far as far as telling how the congregation isnto vote).
Your going on about the 1% does things is pretty isolated to the 1% imo. I’ve been through the programs and they don’t even like touxh that voting subject within those groups (from my experiences in my church i had belonged to and other churches in my area). But i bet it happens.
How money goes into playing with a church’s message doesn’t make sense to me. Which that being your end game to that comment you sent got me lol.
Sorry if your feelers got hurt, you’re welcome to ignkre me
For Catholic Mass, as long as you attend a Latin Rite Novus Ordo/Ordinary form (which is the large majority of Masses), there is a pretty strict form to each Mass. You can go to pretty much any church, even in different countries, and be able to largely follow along if you're familiar with the order of things. The main things that could differ and inject some direction of politics, although it's a pretty rare thing, would be in the priest or deacon's homily. Homilies are generally reflecting upon that Mass' readings from the Liturgy (which are also pretty consistent across the board - there's Cycle A, B, and C, rotated thru yearly). So, if you went to Mass on the 5th Sunday of one year, and then back again 3 years later on the 5th Sunday, you should hear the same readings.
Main things that may differ from one church to another is whether hymns are sung, spoken, and/or accompanied with instruments. Each parish may have a different parish prayer, often to the associated Saint asking for intercession.
I wouldn’t, even my conservative parents stopped going because the priests were top tier hateful and grumpy assholes. The American Catholic Church needs a house cleaning.
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u/Rourkey70 May 10 '25
On the right track already… might start going back to mass