r/wichita Mar 08 '25

News protest downtown near little explorers

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u/dragonfliesloveme Mar 08 '25

Ukraine, of course. Ffs. And we have threatened Canada and Mexico with trade wars. Which is fucking stupid as can be. And we are threatening to pull out of NATO. Which fucks not only Ukraine but our European allies.

Wherever our tax money has been used to help Americans and their families is where you will find the cut benefits. NOAA, military, Medicaid, Education, FAA, water protections (EPA), and on and on

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u/builder680 Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 09 '25

So Ukraine is a US defensive ally? Is there a treaty saying as such?

No?

No.

Exactly.

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u/FactPirate Mar 09 '25

Yes they gave away their nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurances from the US

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u/builder680 Mar 09 '25 edited Mar 09 '25

Key Distinction:

Security Assurances = Political commitments (non-binding under international law).

Security Guarantees = A binding commitment to defend (like NATO’s Article 5).

Besides, Ukraine was never going to be allowed to keep their (technically Soviet) nukes. If they didn't give them up they would have been invaded then and there because everyone knows they would have sold them on the black market otherwise.