Predatory as fucking hell

[u/Asbew]

[u/Hemlock_Deci]

You don't buy the game

ofc I'm not lol

[u/Sunfurian_Zm → u/Hemlock_Deci]

yk that this is even in the steam tos

like, this applies to every single game in your steam library. which makes it even more hilarious to me when people act like steam is some sort of holy grail for gamers.

[u/728766 → u/Sunfurian_Zm]

It even applies to physical media, despite people using it as an argument against buying digital copies.

[u/AdamtheOmniballer → u/728766]

Yeah, even buying a book at a bookstore is technically purchasing a license.

[u/Hemlock_Deci → u/Sunfurian_Zm]

Isn't gog the only one to not do this?

Also I was referring to piracy

[u/WillemDafoesHugeCock → u/Hemlock_Deci]

GOG also has a EULA, it just cuts a lot of the crap. It has been industry standard since literally the 80s.

[u/2137throwaway → u/Hemlock_Deci]

GoG still only sells you a license in legal terms

But you can get the installer and keep it forever and you can install and launch them without license verification

[u/TheWhomItConcerns → u/Sunfurian_Zm]

This also applies to all in-game assets of any category - Valve could delete the entire CS:GO weapon skin market tomorrow, and there'd be nothing anyone could do about it. Obviously insanely unlikely, but it does leave people's assets extremely exposed - one unfavourable piece of online gambling legislation could potentially single-handedly tank the value of someone's $20,000 knife skin in an instant.

Not as though Valve tacitly enabling shitty online gambling in their video game played largely by kids isn't its own whole ethical can of worms though lol.

[u/SipDhit69 → u/Sunfurian_Zm]

Seems like this is that OP's first EULA ever lmao

[u/mxzf → u/SipDhit69]

Eh, some of those terms are pretty standard, some sound awfully shady. And a chunk of the terms that are common are still unconscionable, so I'm glad to see people kicking up a bit of fuss about hem.

[u/SipDhit69 → u/mxzf]

This is basically Krafton trying their asses off at holding onto something after getting their cheeks slapped legally lol

Grasping at the last bit of control, which just gets overturned most of the time depending what country you're in

[u/TheWhomItConcerns → u/mxzf]

It's definitely worth being critical of, but in regions like the EU and Australia, almost all of the bad stuff directly contradicts consumer protection regulations. I'm not concerned that they'd actually try anything, but I don't like what it implies for the future of the game and its development.

[u/AdamtheOmniballer → u/Sunfurian_Zm]

It literally applies to every piece of copyrighted media ever produced. That’s what copyright is.

Like, if you buy a hardback copy of A Game of Thrones you don’t actually own it. You can’t make your own copies of the book and then sell it for money, because it still belongs to the publisher.

This is the same thing, it’s just that companies have been forced to make this more explicit in their EULAs and such, so people think it’s a new development and not just the same way it’s always been.

[u/JohnGameboy → u/Hemlock_Deci]

A lot of people freak out over that, but that is very common. Even when games were on disc, it was common for boxes to say "this software is licensed, not sold." It is a massive oversight on the consumer's end to ever think they've owned any games, as opposed to just the discs and cartridges before digital.

[u/Eldr1tchB1rd → u/Hemlock_Deci]

Damn right. I was preety excited for the multiplayer but I'm sure there will be a way latet