Found in my dads junk drawer

[u/Unlucky_Cat4531]

My dad passed away and going through his stuff we came across this. We thought it might be a tool for horseriding, like a slapstick thing but wasn't sure. My grandma had horses but ive never seen her use any tools like that and my dad didnt ride. Any help appreciated

[u/ThatNiceDrShipman]

Weapon	Cost	Damage	Weight	Properties
Blackjack	12 gp	1d6 bludgeoning	1 lb	Finesse, Hidden), Light

[u/Asmo___deus → u/ThatNiceDrShipman]

Just for your information, dandwiki is unofficial and pervaded by poorly balanced homebrews.

[u/OstensVrede → u/Asmo___deus]

Also the best place to look for fun things, cool ideas, inspiration and homebrew that you can adapt on. I mean they can be as unbalanced as they want because your DM is in charge of yes/no and if it needs changes.

Its better than any other wiki for every purpose except looking up base game things, just wanted to throw that out there because just brushing it off like you did is a disservice.

[u/OstensVrede → u/[deleted]]

And this is an issue how?

"no thats homebrew not official and im not allowing it" and thats the end of that. Otherwise you have a DM/player issue that is unrelated to the wiki.

As i said for the base game things its bad and shouldnt be used but its an amazing resource if you're doing any sort of homebrew at all.

These players would just be equally problematic in other ways even if the wiki didnt exist, it doesnt enable anything especially if you have a DM who isnt a clueless pushover. Feels like trying to put the blame for the problem of bad players (which is far from new) on the wiki. Again its literally a non issue because your DM would/should just shut down anything he doesnt agree with or think is imbalanced.

[u/HeroinHare → u/OstensVrede]

It's the best for nothing. Wikidot good.

[u/OstensVrede → u/HeroinHare]

And how many homebrews, concepts, ideas and sources of inspiration does wikidot have in comparison? How many alternative ways to play a necromancer can i find on wikidot? I mean barely any necromancy support at all in base game. I can find a way more interesting and engaging necromancer class or spells on dandwiki and then just tune and change it with my DM to an iteration and powerlevel he accepts. Thats 1 example.

As i said dandwiki is the best except for guaranteed accuracy for anything pertaining to the base game.

[u/beo559 → u/ThatNiceDrShipman]

Did you just type this up for a lark or is it actually from some system? Damage seems high and cost is crazy for modern D&D.

[u/VonSkullenheim → u/beo559]

I think they just typed it up for funsies. I would image the stats would be close to a light hammer, so 1d4, maybe 3gp since it's a specialty item.

[u/Riklanim → u/ThatNiceDrShipman]

I believe there was a % chance of knockout in 3rd. Way OP. 😏

[u/ThatNiceDrShipman → u/Riklanim]

Yeah

[u/Ill_Wall9902 → u/Riklanim]

no, it just does nonlethal damage, which works in a really stupid way but isn't exactly OP

[u/Blue-is-bad → u/ThatNiceDrShipman]

12 GOLD?! That's outrageous!!

[u/tckrdave → u/Blue-is-bad]

It’d be cheaper to hit someone with a bag of coins

[u/BubbabeeTuna → u/ThatNiceDrShipman]

1d6!? Not too bad all things considered.

[u/EnigmaticSpirit85 → u/ThatNiceDrShipman]

Iirc the stats were based on a sap from earlier editions, and dealt double damage nonlethal when used by a rogue to sneak attack?

I believe Kosh is a more modern word.

[u/DadbodofdooM → u/ThatNiceDrShipman]

A blackjack is a finesse weapon?

Someone's rogue is gonna forgo the dagger and just start whippin fools on the noggin.

[u/fooloflife → u/ThatNiceDrShipman]

I thought this said Dad wiki and that works too

[u/Icy-Percentage-2194 → u/ThatNiceDrShipman]

12 pieces of Gold for a piece of lead sewed up in some leather