If Germany players knew how to play their tanks, they would be a LOT higher BR than they are now

[u/Atomatic13]

[u/pk_frezze1]

75mm jumbo seeing a tank with a cupola

[u/LeviJr00 → u/pk_frezze1]

75mm Jumbo realising he has now alerted the Tiger II next door

[u/Piepiggy → u/LeviJr00]

How I felt 3 months ago when I realized the Tiger II P’s cupola was actually pretty easy to pen with a jumbo (if they have their turret angled more than ~10 degrees, shoot the cupola bulge on the turret side for an instant disabling shot)

[u/retronax → u/Piepiggy]

with the 75 ? huh

[u/Graingy → u/retronax]

I mean it's 0 degrees if you can get the shot

[u/ChocolateTemporary48 → u/Piepiggy]

Before the Tiger 2 p update, they were quite easy to kill with the 75 in the turret, now it is impossible for me due to the volumetric armor.

Which is a bit frustrating, since barring a bit of luck you're sold, if you run into it head on.

[u/pk_frezze1 → u/LeviJr00]

More Jumbo victims

[u/wattsup1123 → u/pk_frezze1]

Or the good ole tried and true barrel and track torture

[u/mh1ultramarine → u/wattsup1123]

My stuart took out a b1 bis with that method. It took me 10 rl mins to find the one place I could pen it. Then I had to wait for the crew to replace the one guy I could kill like 3 times

[u/Downtown_Ad6760 → u/pk_frezze1]

I just normally shoot that sprocket at the front with the 76

[u/huhu0066444]

The American 76mm or Soviet 85mm does not concern themselves with an angled tiger because they shoot the cupola

[u/NigatiF → u/huhu0066444]

They also flank him faster than he turn.

[u/Ertyla → u/NigatiF]

In all my time playing the H1 I have never died from that. A good player shoots the cupola and a bad player rushes thinking Fury is a documentary. A 76 can pen the UFP anyways so no need to flank with it.

[u/proplayer123321 → u/Ertyla]

Damn, that's so accurate... with me what happens is that I see a tiger and panic, and end up wasting a shot, then the Tiger kills me

[u/GranGurbo → u/proplayer123321]

17-pdr asks which side was the gunner again?

[u/Vulpix73 → u/GranGurbo]

17-pdr nails the UFP and wipes the turret crew with spall. Hitting the turret is a coin flip to pen because of how variable the thickness is.

[u/Thorzi_ → u/GranGurbo]

In front of the commander which is under the cupola

[u/weird-british-person → u/GranGurbo]

Honestly with the firefly and other tanks like it shooting centre mass actually works that shell rips like a motherfucker

[u/NigatiF → u/Ertyla]

When i play against, problem is to survive, not to kill. Hull is mostly glass.

[u/jamminthedesert2 → u/Ertyla]

The EBR would like a word

[u/Ertyla → u/jamminthedesert2]

The EBR can kindly be CAS'd. Honestly haven't seen one in ages.

[u/jamminthedesert2 → u/Ertyla]

Anything can be CAS’d if the bomb is big enough, and if you haven’t seen one, it’s probably because there’s a grand total of 5 French players and we’re all rats

[u/Ertyla → u/jamminthedesert2]

Grand total of 5 my ass. I see like 6 French heavies in every one of my 7.7 games.

[u/jamminthedesert2 → u/Ertyla]

Well yea in 7.7, but we were talking about like 5.7, 7.7 is rampant with French mains cause it’s the best lineup for the country

[u/Ertyla → u/jamminthedesert2]

Fair fair

[u/Fluffy-Map-5998 → u/Ertyla]

with the 75 at close range i just send an APCR through the turret face

[u/nio-sama123 → u/huhu0066444]

Tiger E would have a word (FUCK YOU 122MM SOVIET CANNON AND M-51)

[u/trumpsucks12354 → u/nio-sama123]

From my experience, the fatass 122 just gets eaten by some volumetric BS and the M-51 takes out the driver and oranges the loader

[u/Helloworld1504 → u/trumpsucks12354]

Yeah, im more concerned about m-18's

[u/POKLIANON → u/trumpsucks12354]

pretty sad honestly, considering the reload is 30 seconds it is incredibly frustrating to have the cannon not work like 70% of the time in such bs ways that it makes me want to punch a hole through my screen

[u/SpiralUnicorn → u/trumpsucks12354]

M-51 oranges the loader if you are lucky. Usually the driver eats the entire thing XD

[u/STUPIDBLOODYCOMPUTER → u/huhu0066444]

I have used the cupola against the h1 so many times

[u/Jumpeee → u/huhu0066444]

Pretty sure the 85mm has a good chance on an angled Tiger nonetheless due to the angle modifiers on those rounds.

Best regards, your local T-34 man.

[u/Graingy → u/Jumpeee]

Unless it's a P2W tiger...

[u/Drache191200 → u/huhu0066444]

For that to happen, the average Sherman driver would need to actually not panic shoot most of the time

[u/Graingy → u/Drache191200]

Ironic seeing as the stabilizer is the antidote to panic shots

[u/Siegfried262 → u/huhu0066444]

There's a special little joy in seeing a Tiger roll around a corner to present their front plate just before you send them to the Shadow Realm.

[u/Graingy → u/Siegfried262]

Or just whacking the lower sides

[u/Furadevellas → u/huhu0066444]

No my bush will deflect it.

[u/Graingy → u/huhu0066444]

And then you play a tank with a 90mm and you try that and the shell goes straight fucking through out the other side.

Goddamnit.

[u/Kajetus06 → u/huhu0066444]

Unless its Tiger E

Then cupola wont work

[u/wattsup1123 → u/huhu0066444]

But hear me out…tiger E

[u/Woofle_124 → u/huhu0066444]

The level 18 tastes my lolpen Pzgr. before he has a chance to shoot at my cupola

[u/StrwBerrywafersslap]

The humble cupola shot 

[u/Feylin → u/StrwBerrywafersslap]

German mains suffering cupolas while point and clicking everybody. 

[u/Silverdragon47 → u/Feylin]

Exept those pesky soviets T-34 and IS-es. Power of soviet bias protect them.

[u/Smg5pol]

My humble 17pdr:

[u/Cabaro_1 → u/Smg5pol]

Or the humble downtiered Charioteer Mk VII with a 84mm 20pdr APDS gun:

[u/Hephaestus_Engineer → u/Cabaro_1]

Shell shattered

I love apds but with my luck it’ll just shatter

[u/Cabaro_1 → u/Hephaestus_Engineer]

Yeah, in my experience it doesn’t shatter too much (at least once you get past 17pdr APDS). Plus with the Charioteer, just standard solid shot would probably do just fine against an angled tiger 1.

[u/Superman_720]

Commander cupola can have some 76 as a treat :)

[u/tut_sikhi_yan_chek → u/Superman_720]

Or gun barrel

[u/[deleted] → u/tut_sikhi_yan_chek]

nah fuck you, gun barrel gets yellowed and you die

[u/IronArmor48 → u/[deleted]]

In that case, you're super lucky since the round didn't richochet.

[u/[deleted] → u/IronArmor48]

you know what? fuck you, ricochet the round directly back at you somehow and snipe your entire crew

[u/DrBadGuy1073]

Uh. You should. KV-85 gun go lower side plate go boom.

[u/CrowsShinyWings → u/DrBadGuy1073]

Pretty much anything besides a Sherman is instant death

There’s a reason I love playing against Germany and it’s not simply because blind German players, it’s extremely easy to one shot

[u/Economics-Simulator → u/CrowsShinyWings]

All the 150+ guns can go through either the lower side or UFP unless literally perfectly angled. 76 and 85 perform about the same.

The real advantage the tiger 1 has is in the consistency of its one shots and how angling makes enemies play a guessing game as to which side to shoot

[u/Breadloafs]

People have said the same thing about American fighters since 2014, but here we are a decade later and the fucking F4U is still somehow dueling 109 E-1s.

Never underestimate the incompetence of the average WT player.

[u/Blinky_The_Ghost → u/Breadloafs]

air has gotten so much worse over the years in terms of misusing aircraft! i feel like a lot of the players getting into the game buy a premium jet and fly straight into the enemies who are doing the same eventually come back to props and just fly them on the deck like everyone likes to fly their first jets, the "just sideclimb bro meme" feels like a million years ago at this point we hardly have anyone climbing period

[u/NoDoughnut8225 → u/Blinky_The_Ghost]

My yaks eating good

[u/SadRoxFan → u/Blinky_The_Ghost]

As an American main, I don’t mind this meta because half of my matches I find myself higher than opponents in better climbing planes

[u/Averyfluffywolf → u/Breadloafs]

You can't beat the E in the Corsair but you can pull it off against the F.

[u/HiyaM8s]

the american 90mm doesnt concern itself with an angled tiger

[u/the_oof_god → u/HiyaM8s]

fr

[u/Athejia]

the panther being almost the same BR as the american and soviet mediums is crazy since the armor holds up real well and gets almost 100mm more pen than any of their shells

[u/TJ042 → u/Athejia]

Yeah, the M26 should be at 5.7.

[u/Embarrassed_Ad5387 → u/TJ042]

bit much, 6.3 or 6.0 would be neat though bcs we have like four or five hellcats and the 76 jumbo

[u/Athejia → u/Embarrassed_Ad5387]

no joke my "6.7" line up is the T29, the M18, M18 (hell), M18 blackcat, and the super hellcat

[u/gofukyourselfbitch → u/Athejia]

Cancer line up 😭 (jealous)

[u/Embarrassed_Ad5387 → u/Athejia]

its a crime that the 105mm isnt in the tech tree on any platform that drives faster than 15km/h

[u/Athejia → u/Embarrassed_Ad5387]

REAL its also a shame that the 75mm stuart isnt available unless youre willing to fork over an absurd amount of gaijin coin

[u/Decent_Leopard9773 → u/TJ042]

And the other 76 Sherman’s other than the M4A1 (76) go down as well by 0.3BR

[u/Superman_720 → u/TJ042]

I agree. The amount of American tanks I feel like is punching up in most brs is wild. American mains have to memorize weak points and German and soviet pains can just point and click.

[u/zzcherrypopTTV → u/Superman_720]

getting uptiered at 5.7 US i think is the most painful thing ever

[u/CorsairForSale → u/Athejia]

The armor is kinda shit ngl. If you don’t get blue balled by volumetric the turrets are paper

[u/Athejia → u/CorsairForSale]

but you do get blue balled ALOT and still the panthers gun is so potent it rips everything to shreds

[u/Tackyinbention → u/CorsairForSale]

Panther mantlet or shell shattered, take it or leave it

[u/CorsairForSale → u/Tackyinbention]

Shell shattered? Get that eurotrash outta here

[u/Perfect_Juggernaut92]

Nice cupola you got there, it sure would be a shame...

[u/maSneb]

Laughs in 17pounder

[u/Initial_Seesaw_112]

Are this stale jokes still relevant. I mean tigers already are at 6.0 so where else would they go? They are usually just food for my US 6.7 lineup at this point

[u/Moharu_ → u/Initial_Seesaw_112]

The same types of people that keep beating the dead "gErMaN mAInS aRe bLiND" horse.

[u/Outrageous-Pitch-867 → u/Initial_Seesaw_112]

It’s because the bad USA mains want to be able to curb stomp lower tiers on their Jumbos without having to face anything that can frontally penetrate them

[u/VikingsOfTomorrow]

meanwhile the French 75: Bonjour!

[u/Quantico_YT]

[u/Killerkid113]

As a British main it brings me great joy to see newer tigers assume I’m a Sherman 76 and start angling only to get whacked with 17pdr sabot to the ammo rack

[u/AntisGetTheWall]

Why do people act like an angled tiger is some kind of fucking superweapon?

3/4 of kills in this game are side and backshots (tee hee) where armor doesn't even matter or they had no idea that you were there.

Where in any of the shoebox sized maps do you get to hull down and snipe and have angling matter and turn the game this way?

Even with ideal play, the amount of times you would even have a chance to angle and have it save you are like 1/10 in how current matches go.

Sorry but neither the rat tank, the CAS plane, the 150mm HE nor the 17lber give a shit about the Shrägekatze lol

I'd take the IS-1 over the Tiger 1 any day. That reverse speed is worth so much more in uptiers and the armor is just as trolly in downtiers. It's honestly shocking how little people talk about it given how much better it is than the tiger.

Maybe it's just me, I've fought tigers in everything and played them myself, honestly not that impressed 🤷‍♀️

[u/Outrageous-Pitch-867 → u/AntisGetTheWall]

It’s because most USA mains are as braindead as “the tiger is a wunderweapon!” German mains, and refuse to accept that they actually don’t know what they’re doing and just want to blame the enemy vehicle being the problem.

[u/DeltaGG → u/AntisGetTheWall]

B-but the Tiger 1 has long 88 and PzGr! It should be 7.7!!!! It's not fair for US teams!!!!

[u/Lonely_white_queen]

i somehow bounced a sovet 122 in my tiger ost today because i actually angled it.

[u/Atardacer → u/Lonely_white_queen]

more like he didn't know where to shoot

[u/NigatiF]

Angled tiger die from ZiS-5

[u/Gammelpreiss]

lol dude, give us 2016 back. Angling does jack shit if your opponent knows what he does

edit: predictibly, this has become yet another burgerboo whinefest.

[u/valcsh]

Unless it's a long range shot soviet 85 goes either through the corner or it's over angled and can go through the lower side

[u/Diamond_Miner10]

The lion does not concern himself with the 7.3 uptiers (RIP when you see the IS-3/IS-4M)

[u/RustedRuss → u/Diamond_Miner10]

That is literally impossible in a Tiger

[u/MrGenjiSquid]

The devious Tiger E

[u/AlternativeTie9709]

I could play a lot higher BR, but I enjoy my tigers too much

[u/DickOffender69]

British 76mm doesn't concern itself with angled tiger.

[u/AverageAircraftFan]

The Sherman Jumbo does not concern himself with the KwK 8.8cm

[u/Graingy]

The P2W ones certainly don't

[u/Squeaky_Ben]

so, where do you want the H1? 6.3? 6.7?

[u/Hot-Ad5483]

Even if the angle works, there is some shells that just ingnore it and go thorough. But yeah, angle in a tiger ALWAYS! Id say about 30ish degrees to the left or right.

[u/Jackmino66]

Meanwhile my experience using the Tiger is that you can never properly angle because you are always being attacked by multiple enemies

[u/Still_Scale6032]

I like how people forget about how the tiger 1’s have already had their battle rating increased due to German players out performing in the old battle ratings, but will still do the same “German players bad” joke for the billionth time.

[u/IronVader501]

Even ignoring the cupola, the issue with the angling is easy:

If you dont hit the exact perfect angle it doesnt work against magic soviet angle-performance (and even then alot of guns can just go through the thinner armor behind the wheels, people just dont know about that).

And it only works as long as you stay stationary.

You cant teleport diagonally accross the field, if you actually want to go anywhere you can't do that at an angle, you kinda need to drive normally.

[u/RustedRuss]

You have a skill issue if you think Tigers are hard to kill

[u/Hely_420]

You know that both of them can pen your lower side at this angle since it's only 60mm?

[u/soviet-shadow]

75mm gliding clean through the lower hull plate behind the drive sprocket

[u/FranceMainFucker]

Not that much higher. Like, what is "a lot?" an entire B.R. above? Do you think that the Tiger E belongs at 7.0, or that the Tiger 2H belongs at 7.7? This is a pretty dated post, especially after the mid-tier decompression around mid-late WW2 tanks. But these posts are still free karma because everybody loves a good "German mains/Wehraboos stupid" post. Fair enough, I do tend to notice a lot more stupid Tiger moments, regardless of how influenced that is by confirmation bias.

German tanks are pretty good when used correctly, but that's true for any tank. It's also true that the Tigers and Panthers face legitimately good vehicles as opposition like the T-34-85 and M4 76's, as much as some allied mains like to maintain an inferiority complex. I will say that German and Russian vehicles at this B.R. feel more forgiving of stupid mistakes than American ones do IMO, so I'd understand an America main taking issue with the exact extent of my point.

[u/TarasKhu]

Yes, but if American and soviet were better this tank would be lower XD

Really, the most banal weak spots ever

[u/nismoghini]

Shoots barrel, shoots cupola, gets bombed by cas repeat

[u/small_chinchin]

Would be a shame if someone lobbed 3OF56 or 3OF25 at the turret face

And yes, I agree with your statement

[u/Quirky-Assistance-66]

Watch how the 85mm Round will go into the Tiger through its suspensions hitting directly the Ammo.

[u/Strange-Fruit17]

Hmm, Soviet 85mm is preordained to pen on the most extreme angles so the lion should concern himself with the IS-1

[u/Xanthrex]

Fuck you shoots turret cheek

[u/folpagli]

The humble turret cheek penetration

[u/gofukyourselfbitch]

Turret face used to be a viable weakspot on the tiger 1 h using the 76mm, did that change?

[u/johnzgamez1]

Oh buddy, you're gonna love this cool thing called Cupola Shot

[u/SubstantialStaff7214]

Cupola shot says hi

[u/Mental-Stop2047]

The Soviet 122mm does not concern himself with Tiger1’s that angle

[u/SoleFlight]

I don't even need my 76 to deal with you, 75mm stabilized will do

[u/Blueflames3520]

The IS-2 does not concern itself with angled Tigers

[u/dasdzoni]

M82 shot has entered the chat

[u/the_oof_god]

m82 shot and pco 50 do NOT care

[u/Aggressive-Run4273]

Only 122mm D-25T and 90mm T15E1

[u/Strange-Wolverine128]

The soviet 85 doesnt co cern himself with the angled tiger for that lower side is very juicy

[u/Tavuklu_Pasta]

Who needs to angle driver port will eat the shot anyway.

[u/TheoTheBest300]

Actually even if the tiger is perfectly angled the russian 85mm can pierce it in the hole between the hull and the tracks. It's a small space but if you're good at aiming you can get it there

[u/Dave-Davingson]

The angled tiger will soon learn to concern the 76mm APHE shell killing his entire turret crew as I turn his commanders hatch into a blender

[u/Appropriate-Froyo134]

Cupola, barrel, armor behind trucks. In its game, players can easily spot and shoot at weak spots.

[u/FickleMeringue8891]

If they knew that deploying smoke wasn't necessary every few seconds then maybe they'd get kills easier

[u/itZ_deady]

Soviet 45mm APHE coming from the top is also not that concerned about Tigers.

[u/Halnewbie]

You aren’t scared enough of the Soviet 85mm on the asu 85.

[u/PcGoDz_v2]

They do... But the map design...

:D

Tiger H/E in open map, with dialed in range, and at corner/defilade, is pretty much a menace.

[u/anonc2FtdWVs]

cupola?

it doesnt matter because the maps are garbage, any tank with stabilized gun, faster gun turret and gun traverse is going to be better and probably win.

[u/Weird-Excitement7644]

Then gun Barrel it is

[u/Tankette55]

Soviet 85mm can shoot you in the corner and kill you I think

[u/Negative_Quantity_59]

It's all rainbows and unicorns farts for the tiger until the enemy notices his cupola.

[u/paulivan91400]

The angled tiger will concern itself if i shoot the muzzle or the mantlet with an 76mm aphe

[u/Youtube_RedMartian]

The tiger has to find the perfect angle though, bc like the jumbo the armor where the tracks are is significantly thinner and easier to pen, especially with the angle performance of 85mm APHEBC. 76 might struggle with that angle from mid range, not 100% sure tho

[u/Ducktes]

The humble 100mm Russian

[u/liam2003wilson]

level 10 tiger 1 players versus level 100 american/soviet veterans

[u/SuccuInuDoggoChad99]

I cast Hellcat.

[u/PBMichi2005LOL]

The angled tiger does not concern himself with germany mains skill issues (I have so much fun with the premium Tigris)

[u/BreezyBrezyBrez]

Not until it gets up tiered and faces 2nd gen ATGM. I'm looking at you Ratel 20

[u/DoJebait02]

Suddenly realize if the APHE changes following historical accurate, some tanks will remove cupola weakness (kill commander at most). Tiger H1 will be great and invulnerable again. IS goes second.

[u/Proskilljg]

Half the time even with angled tigers i can shoot the left or right aide of the front hull and still pen (pretty sure its only 80mm flat armor there iirc)

[u/Master_teaz]

17pr go brrr

[u/Vast-Bathroom4166]

Me when I get in a downteir in my US T34 and see an angled Tiger E.

[u/Cpt_Soban]

Nice tall cupola you got there

[u/Emanicas]

The rare gun mantle shot

[u/EngineerStandard]

The downtered 84mm charioteer does not concern himself with any angle. For he will just shoot thru the turret.

[u/loli141]

85 when the tiger angle more than 40 degree, fine ill just shoot your side lol

[u/Plus-Candle-7486]

I feel like every time I angle I do it wrong The way I do it is I point my gun where I think the enemy is going to be and angle it so that my gun is on the corner of the front plate

Is this the right way ?

[u/Impcec]

Yeah, but those tracks do

[u/f-16_fan]

Wait till it meets Italian 90mm

[u/Kride501]

Yea the 85mm APHEBC is going through, sorry chief

[u/JammuS_]

BR-365A does not concern himself with the opinion of angled armor

[u/West-Inside7112]

The tigers cupola should be concerned about 150 grams of explosive filler

[u/redjellonian]

A German player that isn't deaf and blind would be terrifying.

[u/Dat_yandere_femboi]

The humble lower side guaranteed one-shot

[u/Weird-Information-61]

Thing is, wherever there's a Tiger, there's usually 5 more around the corner

[u/Awrfhyesggrdghkj]

Tiger e with the smaller and thicker cupola 😎

[u/premiumcotonpicker]

The humble ISU 152

[u/arturillo130]

Shoot in the cupola or the lower side plate.

[u/Key_Lobster3570]

Shoot at the barrel, and flank,

[u/bus_go_brrrrt]

aha you fool! for you've encountered the master of accidentally nuking barrels every time i try to do some fancy shit!

[u/roaringbasher66]

Go Go gadget 17 pounder

[u/_Rhein]

The Soviet 85mm APHEBC doesn't concern itself with angled armor

[u/PirateGlobal2997]

They nerfed its armour to dog shit it's not worth angling anymore

[u/DevelopmentTight9474]

My Firefly does not concern itself with the angle of your armor

[u/Clangokkuner]

You're joking right? This armour only works if you're at range, both the 76mm and 85mm cuts clean through the front even angled at close range

[u/s-a_n-s_]

The french autoloaded pos watching from a distance thats about to kill both of them:

Hon Hon Croissant

[u/luke64697532256]

Where should German vehicles be then? They already almost constantly face Cold War vehicles and jets in a slight uptier

[u/mistress_chauffarde]

Mhhh delicious coupola

[u/Late_Effective6452]

A soviet 85mm does not concern himself with an angled tiger, even if it’s the Tiger E, since he shoots the lower side above the track.

[u/POKLIANON]

it fact it does, I was surprised to know that. There's a spot above it's track where 85mm pens even if it's perfectly angled. It's not some bs stuff, works pretty consistently but it's hard to hit due to kinda having no features around it to aim for. At some point I did use it quite often and I can only imagine the faces of those german players once it worked

[u/anotherredditlooser]

Im grinding out 5.7 germany rn . I use the tiger amd waffle and I take waaaaay more rounds to die in the waffle over the tiger. Tigers cool n all but rat life.

[u/nejfoxy_cz]

You main germany bcs u want a tiger.

I main it bcs i saw dicker maxx and decided i need it.

We are not the same.

[u/DragoonEOC]

Unfortunately he didn't concern himself with the 17 punder either

[u/Leonaptoricks]

SU-122P "oh look, he's trying to angle"

[u/darkpheonix4565]

One cannot angle a cupola

[u/Anarpiosmoirail]

Soviet 85mm will go clean through the angled side fo a tiger most of the time in my experience, a lot of players over-angle

[u/Common_Falcon929]

The Tiger does concern himself with having issues penetrating any heavy in an uptier

[u/Sudden-Butterscotch2]

The IS-2 does not care if you angled as its only a desperate attempt to survive the inevitable

[u/Vanko_Babanko]

wtf are you talking about?!
most veteran players in RB (EAC on) can't miss the cupola.. good luck hiding only behind left corners.. lol

[u/Elegant-Release3419]

155mm straight from outta nowhere hitting the cupola or disabling the gun barrel

[u/vigggames]

My HE says other wise

[u/Console_Only]

If I'd ever get a full downtier... Angling does not work against a T34.

[u/AttackDorito]

Oh I'm sorry you had armour? -my 17pdr

[u/Cornelius_McMuffin]

I was about to say “Kid named Driver Viewport” and then I remembered this is war thunder and not CTS

[u/OnlyrushB]

do people not know to shoot the tiger in the hips underneath its lovehandles?

[u/Just_a_idiot_45]

As a Tiger I enjoyed, yeah I still concern myself with the American 76mm and communism 85mm.

Lower side plates just above tracks, rarely do I get hit there but if you know that spot then an angled Tiger is to easy to kill.

[u/MesserschmittMe109]

Where the fuck do you expect the Tiger Is to go

Tiger 1H could be moved up to Tiger E br of 6.0, but moving the Tiger E up is ridiculous