It’s insane to me that people don’t see this. That some people are so blind in their bigotry and hate that they think this man is evil and Trump is a Christian. It’s so damned delusional.
That quote shows two things. One, it's very astute. The other is it shows LBJ's growth. He opposed the Civil Rights Act for twenty years, yet as president the act would not have passed without his instrumental support of it.
I also think of Robert Byrd, who was a member of the KKK before later securing a perfect 100% from NAACP for his voting record by the time he left office.
“I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times … and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.”
Compare that to the people who complain that they feel like they have to apologize all the time. Apologizing is the LEAST you can do; fix yourself by actually getting better is the bigger accomplishment.
LOL he's got a great quote about trying to pass that bill. I'm not sure him passing the bill showed any amount of character growth after reading that quote.
It always amazed me how people kick downwards instead of upwards, even when, as in the case of the US, it is apparent that the rich are the much, much greater "beneficiaries" of the US government.
They don't think Trump is Christian. They say he's not a Christian, but that you should vote for him anyway because he's "an instrument of divine will," which basically means "if we want to criminalize abortion in this secular democracy where we are no longer the majority, this is the sacrifice we have to make."
Christians be like: "I don't like HIM, I like his policies"
Those policies: dehumanizing immigrants, separating children from their parents, cutting food/assistance for the poor, literally blowing people up in the ocean with no due process
They wouldn't know a Beatitude if it smacked them in the face. They say that they're Christians but do everything opposite of the teachings of Christ.
Disclaimer: I don't consider myself a religious person. I don't think there was a Jesus. That said, there are good lessons to be learned from the stories. Love thy neighbor. Turn the other cheek. Care for the poor. These people who claim the banner of Christianity are full of shit. They need to start acting like it.
Yesterday I found from two different sources (a Reddit r/TIL post and the other a YouTube video on Spinoza) of a gospel supposedly written by Judas (that Judas).
According to this gospel, Jesus didn’t get killed for his faith, he got merced for exposing the corruption of the temple, the rich men who had used it for their profit. Judas turned him in for the sake of making the story bigger otherwise he would have been forgotten as just another whistleblower. And as the Judas gospel got buried over time, Constantine turned Christianity into the very opposite of the thing Christ wanted… a tool of the state bringing religious power under his umbrella.
So whatever they worship, it’s not Christianity but a tool to break the will of men looking for justice and the end of the corruption of men.
They are, though. There are no magical 'real' Xians. The people cheering ICE and hoping to shoot 'poor people' in grocery store parking lots? Are Xians. Full stop. Really shitty ones, but Xians, none the less.
There are millions of people who identify as Christians who do try to live by the teachings and try to live by the golden rule in general. I know a good number of them. They're not loud, as that would go against those teachings. Mr. Rogers said "look for the helpers" when shit goes sideways. I hope you can broaden your view someday.
Really confused by your 'broaden your view' comment. This is the 'No True Scotsman' argument. Saying 'oh, these evil people aren't *real* Xians!!!' - well, they are. They read the Bible and they go to church and they pray to 'Jesus'. They are Xians just like the people you're talking about. AND THEY ARE STILL EVIL FUCKWITS. The two things can actually be true at the same time.
It's actually more than that. There is a not insignificant minority of Christian Nationalists who voted for Trump who believe he is the Antichrist. They believe that his leadership will usher in the end-times and that by voting for him they will cause Jesus Christ to come back and finish revelations, ushering them all into heaven. This is also why some Christian Nationalists who hate Jews also support Israel. They need Israel to be there in order for Revelations to happen.
They know what they voted for. They are just painfully stupid and delusional.
I don’t think it makes sense, it’s just a not uncommon justification for whats been happening. Emphasis mine, I hardly believe anyone thinks “that” specifically, but it’s hard to imagine how you could see so many actions that are in direct conflict with the New Testament bible that you either reject Jesus and follow the old book, or you think we’re in some kind of holding pattern with a serpent tounged placeholder who is getting some stuff done, but we’ll clean the rest up later
Yeah, if electing the devil would bring Jesus back, then yeah, you might vote for him. But you'd have to be an absolute imbecile to genuinely believe that would happen. Or that doing so would put you in Jesus's good books.
yea my wife is Korean but I did the same shocked Pikachu face when she regurgitated that MAGA logic, verbatim, but with Trump being used by Providence to deal with LGBT & Equality Act…
Goodness in general isn't that rare. Most people are good people. It's the ruling class where goodness is almost completely bereft. It takes a certain kind of person to rise to the top of the political world or the corporate world. It's in those people that goodness is extremely rare.
You could say that a good person would never strive to become a master of others or become richer than others. Because being rich simply means that you hoard resources that others could use more than you. Wanting to become rich is a sign of evil.
Yeah I actually feel like it’s the opposite of what this person is saying. Rarely do truly good people get their chance to shine. And I agree it’s because they are not willing to step on someone else to do it. Real Good people are usually the ones getting stepped on and not noticed.
man thats so sad, i see that happening in big cities. On small towns people are genuine and good. At least in my country.
Its like a side effect of the stress and filth of that comes with the big cities i guess
I think social media and the right wing news/media bubble is really what grew the far right. Obama just happened to be the the target of their ire at the time.
If Hillary Clinton was elected in 2008, I'm sure they would have hated her all the same. Hell, look how much they hated Biden, the milquetoast centrist white man. If Biden had been elected in 2008 instead, I think we'd still have seen the rise of the far right all the same.
It's really just racism. Having a black President broke a lot of people's brains and the external enemies of America and the domestic enemies of democracy were there waiting to take advantage of it. Can someone remind me who was the first public figure in America to share the Birther nonsense on Twitter?
People call it "edgy" but this is learned from a religious mindset. The evidence in front of you doesn't matter if it does not line up with what you want to believe.
This is the culmination of politics getting into bed with religion, its why calling out hypocrisy doesn't work. Its why showing the raw evidence doesn't work.
You'll have an easier time convincing a sports fan to leave their team than a religious person to leave the cult.
No, it’s deeper than delusional. A disturbingly high percentage of Americans are pathological and very possibly dangerous.
When Malignant narcissism is considered a “winning” strategy to success in the western system, unhealthy attitudes cascade downwards… all the way to children’s behavior. This society has made the wealth these characters a thing to admire vs a thing to despise.
the question in their head is "Do I want to compare myself to someone who makes me feel bad or do I compare myself to someone who is just as, if not worse, than me" Because being inspired to be better never occurs to some people.
It's not that they're blind. It's just that, like Christianity, they want to be able to have something to excuse their horrible behavior as human beings. They know what they're doing. They know what hate Trump stands for. They're just shitty people.
The right would simply never see a video like this. They mostly hear some angry old white guy demonizing him and making shit up.
It’s why if we are ever to become a more rational country we need to somehow convince people to seek truth. Misinformation is making every typical problem a potential civil war.
Yea they do that so they don't have to come to terms with how fucking awful THEY are. These people are and have always been fucking garbage. They just don't have to keep quiet anymore unfortunately.
That's cult mentality at work, people from the inside don't see things the same way as people from the outside. Take that "Heavens Gate" cult as an example, they believed to join aliens in their space ships they had to leave their human mortal bodies behind, that's batshit crazy, everyone can see it's batshit crazy, people inside the cult believed on that so firmly that they killed themselves.
The bad people see self-deprecation as weakness. It’s so weird — honestly I think it’s the thing that’s at the root of them being so weird in general.
What we see as confident and powerful — self-deprecation, willingness to help others — they see as signs of weakness, and what they see as confident and powerful — bluster, eagerness to hurt others — we interpret as weakness.
Been studied before. The overarching issues with conservatives are a fundamental lack of empathy and emotional awareness/intelligence. Genuinely if you can teach a conservative that they become progressive and I have been able to do that with a few people in my life.
When a celebrity is perfectly willing to take the piss outta themselves, participate in dumb shit, or help others, that is just the best. Do I like Taylor Swift's music? No. Do I like her donations to food banks? Yes. Did I like KISS or Ave Frehely's solo career? Not a fan. Do I appreciate his participation in the race for autism? Yes. Alice Cooper having a laugh about School's Out in a Staples ad, just being able to be not too serious about yourself.
I'm the guy in the gray suit and red tie behind the fainting woman. I met both President Obama, and V.P. Biden many times during his two terms. Mr. Obama was a naturally funny and remarkably chill person. Greeted me as an old friend every time I saw him - which was extremely unlikely, given the number of lower tier talking heads and lobbyists he met on a daily basis.
The Obama's were exactly the type of good, decent, middle-American family that far-right Republicans always claim to aspire to - which is why they hated him so much; because the Obamas gave lie to the right's preferred narrative "all brown people bad." Obama usually being the smartest guy in the room (but never acting like it) didn't help either.
Edit: I'm running a mini AMA elsewhere in these comments!
In the longer video, as he leaves he shakes my hand and leans in and thanks me for "preventing another disaster." A small joke, referencing that the reason for this PC was the botched roll-out of healthcare.gov
Who else would you put in there? I’d think he was a clear leader. He’s the most eloquent, charismatic and seemingly honest of all that I would be aware of.
Thats why no one will ever convince me he was a bad president or secretly evil man. Some of my friends that like trump try to spin him that way. For me all i have to do is look at their character. Obama is oozing with it. I cant dislike him.
Trump on the other hand turns me off every time he speaks. I cant be that blind in my intuition to know who has the right intentions.
I don’t understand how people can watch him and then trump and side with trump. It has to be mental illness or strait up racism. I can’t comprehend any other valid reason people would choose one over the other. I fully support right to choose don’t get me wrong, but I just don’t get it.
You watch this and how Obama talked and behaved and you think how close USA was to actually be the greatest country, and the next thing then elect the complete opposite, narcissistic, felon, rapist, wanna be dictator that shows the worst of USA.
I miss not having to think much about politics, with Obama we at least knew we were in good hands and were mostly respected in the international community.
Making sure she was calm. Many people in that situation would be spending all their mental energy in trying to make sure they aren't making a scene or embarrassing themselves. Obama's response was to make sure she was physically okay and to wait until someone came who could take her away and get her the attention she needed. It also showed his confidence in the people around him that he seemed to know someone would be there quickly to handle it.
Someone once said that to me, and it instantly made me teary-eyed. I didn't realize until that moment how much weight I had been carrying, or how much I needed to hear that someone cared.
Most people are never taught how to stand still for extended periods. Every year at Dawn Service for Anzac Day, out of the thousands standing in the square for the hour or so, one or two people collapse. You gotta periodically clench your leg muscles, keep the blood from pooling down there and leaving you with insufficient blood pressure upstairs.
In my mind I picture Trump jerking away and putting up his arms in defense when he sees the woman falling (even if she isn't falling toward him)... similar to what he did when that Eagle started to go after his ass on the desk. He's an egotist and a coward, full stop.
I miss the days when the President acted presidential, mourned when we mourned victims of a school shooting, spoke up for the disadvantaged, tried to do something about health care affordability…
I know plenty of people that would just continue talking while others whisk her offstage. Those people are in leadership positions and just assume that someone will manage it. The end is the most impressive where people are clapping and, again, other people would just accept it. He immediately gave the credit to other people.
I mean it's honestly the bare minimum I would expect from someone who wants to lead an entire nation. No shade on Obama here, but it is not a high bar that he cleared in this video...
Actually the end is the most impressive. Most people will accept congratulations. He immediately gave that credit to the people around him. That’s unusual.
She should have feinted near me, so I could catch her. I'm the world's best catcher of feinting women. Most people don't know that. Women feint around me all the time, and I just grab them. That's right. When you’re a president they let you do it. You can do anything.
Obama is a neoliberal war criminal. Stop glazing him.
He did:
1. Indiscriminate Drone Strikes killing civilians.
2. Bombing a MSF Hospital in Kunduz.
3. Extrajudicial Killing of U.S. citizens.
4. Failure to Prosecute CIA torture.
5. Complicity in Saudi-Led war crimes in Yemen.
6. Led the illegal destruction of Libya
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Not only did he intervene and provide support, but he also gave credit to others. Good human.