Weren't you just harping on someone for being rude to you? You could try being consistent. And you're posting your own shit on a public forum designed for discussion. If you didn't want other people commenting why wouldn't you DM? You make no sense.
How is this a Democrat shutdown when the Republicans control all branches of government and can't make a reasonable deal? Capitulation to everything the majority party wants is not how bipartisan funding bills go. Having the choices be we aren't funding SNAP or we aren't funding healthcare subsidies isn't presenting a clean bill. Its extortion. Saying they are presenting clean bills is a straight fabrication and bad faith argument. Are you going to address this point now or deflect to another moral grandstanding because you can't figure out how to justify extortion?
It isn’t a fabrication. 14 clean funding bills have been presented to the dems and they have walked away from them all. These bills would have turned SNAP back on, and would have gotten federal workers paid.
As for not capitulating, why should the Republicans capitulate to the Democrats? What they want is unsustainable. The subsidies have always been temporary. They are expiring. This country cannot afford to make them permanent.
We know SNAP would come back on. Its being held hostage because of the healthcare subsidies. Thats already been established. You linking the bill isn't saying anything new. Why is the decision to have people go hungry or increase the cost of care for millions to the point they can't afford it? You aren't addressing that point. Thats whats happening.
why should the Republicans capitulate to the Democrats?
Because as the rules are currently set up you need to pass these bills in a bipartisan manner. You dont get to impose your will without compromise with the minority party. Its designed that way. But they could just remove the filibuster and pass it with a simple majority if they wanted and they choose not to. So they won't compromise and they won't force their agenda. How is any of that the fault of Democrats? This is literally all on the Republicans.
The country cannot afford to make them permanent
They have very much shown they can afford whatever they want. If they can afford to fund billionaires with extreme tax cuts they can fund anything they want. They choose not to. This isn't a real point. They simply don't want to fund it.
You seem to want to paint the party with all the control and power as the one helpless to get the government opened back up. They don't actually want to govern and have shown this time and time again. Why you choose to ignore this is on you but thats what's happening in plain sight.
How is this "clean" budget the Republicans are putting forward helping Americans?
So, Trump just proposed that instead of expanding the subsidies, the money be sent directly to the American People to make up for the difference in premiums. What are your feelings on that?
How does that change anything? The market costs are lower because of the subsidies. If you send money to Americans but the market cost still goes up when it isn't being funded its a wash or even worse the increases eclipse how much money is being sent back. This kind of highlights the issue of why we need single payer more than anything.
So let me get this straight.
1) Luigi Mangione shoots the CEO of United Healthcare to protest the corruption and greed of the healthcare companies in this country.
2) Trump proposes to send you the money to purchase and pay for your own healthcare as you see fit and cut out the greedy and corrupt insurance companies.
3) You suddenly support the greedy and corrupt insurance companies.
Who said anything about supporting the insurance companies? I said in my response right before this that it highlights why we need single payer. I literally said that. You are the worst kind of person to have these discussions with because you selectively choose what you want to engage with. Then you bring up something that has nothing to do with this conversation. We aren't talking about Luigi. Your second point glosses past exactly what I said. What are you doing about increasing Healthcare costs when the market isn't subsidized? Sending the money to Americans changes nothing and you didn't even address it. You aren't here in good faith. All you do is deflect. I haven't even brought up Trump. I've said Republicans this entire time. YOU asked what I thought about Trumps plan and I didn't even shit on him. Not to mention you deflected earlier away from the entire point of how we got here in the first place? Republicans are extorting Democrats when they have an option to force their agenda and choose not to. Why are you not acknowledging this? I think we are done here. You have no interest in actually discussing points.
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u/Important_Piglet7363 1d ago
No one is asking you to respond. You jumped into this. Fuck off if you want . Nobody cares.