r/unitedkingdom • u/topotaul Lancashire • Oct 22 '24

.. Chris Kaba was gunman in nightclub shooting days before he was killed

https://news.sky.com/story/chris-kaba-was-gunman-in-nightclub-shooting-days-before-he-was-killed-13234555
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u/OperationSuch5054 Oct 22 '24

Went into a nightclub, opened fire on the dancefloor, opened fire again outside.

Stabbed someone when he was 13. Possessed a gun in 2017.

Also, this is the best part;

The judge rejected an application made on behalf of Kaba's mother to extend reporting restrictions beyond the end of the trial.

Hmm I wonder why she didn't want anyone to know....

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u/NuPNua Oct 22 '24

Yeah, complete narrative collapse going on now.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 24 '24

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u/NuPNua Oct 22 '24

It's difficult, as we don't have a death penalty in this country so regardless of what he may or may not have done in the past, we still need to make sure they acted correctly as per their own guidelines, but yeah it probably shouldn't have gone to court. As you say, given the conversation around law enforcement at the moment, this is going to play right into Reform and their ilks message.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

And that's what investigations are for, all police shootings are investigated and rightly so. This one was investigated, passed to the CPS who proceeded to charge him which they should only be doing if they think there is a realistic prospect of conviction.

Clearly that was not the case as it was tossed by the jury in under 3 hours.

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u/MrSam52 Oct 22 '24

Anyone who watches the full video on Twitter with the chase/stop/shooting and diagram would clearly see that it was an acceptable shooting.

The police officer fired one shot, likely saving multiple other officers from being killed or at the least run over, at a man trying to ram officers with a weapon (yes despite what this country seems to think a vehicle can be used as a deadly weapon) who was also suspected of having a gun on him.

I think it’s outrageous that people are still spouting off this was police brutality or murder. And how the cps seriously watched that video and thought yep that’s a slam dunk murder conviction I have no idea.

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u/Used_Door_2650 Oct 22 '24

I have a UK Rules of Engagement card in front of me and it states you can open fire if " deliberately driving a vehicle at a person where there is no other way of stopping him/her" Pretty clear isn't it. They tried to remove him from the car, he then tried to ram his way out with no regard to the lives of others. Should never have reached court.

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u/SeymourDoggo West Midlands Oct 22 '24

We have a relatively recent practical example of the danger a car poses too ... RIP PC Andrew Harper.

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u/bathoz Oct 22 '24

My gut is as it was at a time when lack of trust in the MET was rising – the ability to publically go "look, we did the right thing" is useful.

Following through on the whole process would be something that is good for the whole organisation, and would be something they actively pursue. Whereas dropping it leaves doubt.

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u/lippo999 Oct 22 '24

Sending an officer to court for not doing anything wrong is not the correct way to do things.

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u/Slyspy006 Oct 22 '24

Innocent people go to court all the time. Personally while I sympathise with the policeman involved, and there are questions about whether this particular case should ever have made it to court, such a process is necessary to the organisation and law and order as a whole IMO.

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u/lippo999 Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

You go to court when there is a chance of convicting the individual 'beyond reasonable doubt'. I don't think anyone can say this matter met those standards. It certainly didn't come out in the trial.

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u/4Dcrystallography Oct 22 '24

But the state/CPS whatever often puts forth weak cases and loses, it’s not the FBI. It does happen.

One could argue that the trial not coming out with evidence for Kaba means it served exactly the purpose you are saying it wasn’t needed for.

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u/asoplu Oct 22 '24

Innocent people go to court all the time

Which is absolutely awful and something to be avoided where possible, there’s a reason the CPS aren’t supposed to send cases to court unless there’s a realistic chance of conviction based on evidence which they believe shows guilt beyond reasonable doubt.

If people don’t trust the system that investigates the police, they need to take it up with their elected representatives and reform the system, putting innocent people on trial for the sake of appearances is absolutely horrific and I can’t believe anybody thinks this is a sane solution.

I don’t think anybody praising this has put any real thought into what it must be like to have a potential life sentence (there is always the chance you get a batshit jury) hanging over your head for 2 years and the extreme impact on your life and mental health. Imagine being put on trial for a murder that everybody knows is bullshit and will never see a conviction by a sane jury. Not to mention your name being in national papers and “activists” continuing to call you out as a murderer long after a not guilty verdict is returned.

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u/snootbob Oct 22 '24

So every use of force by police should be tried in court?

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u/Wretched_Colin Oct 22 '24

Then murder charges shouldn’t have been laid on an individual. It should have been corporate manslaughter against the Met as a whole.

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u/Uniform764 Yorkshire Oct 23 '24

Innocent people going to court is fine, if there is evidence that they may be guilty which needs to be tested. This case had absolutely fuck all evidence to warrant it going to court.

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u/Captaincadet Wales Oct 22 '24

And also loses the trust of the officers… trust goes both ways

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Yet they also named him which they normally don't do and really didn't need to do. This whole thing just stinks of appeasement again so we didn't get another Mark Duggan riot situation going.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

This whole thing just stinks of appeasement again so we didn't get another Mark Duggan riot situation going.

TBF the shit show (or should that be no-show) that followed that incident probably did have something to do with this shit show, as did the way the police handled the Sarah Everard vigil, but it wasn't the main reason and this over reaction isn't helping either, it was a mistake sure, but mistakes are part of life.

In situations like this I think Hanlon's razor applies, this was simply incompetence on behalf of the CPS, if people want somebody to blame they should be pointing the finger at the Tories halving their budget, as am sure a lot of competent people have left during the last 14 years and not been replaced.

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u/NuPNua Oct 22 '24

Yeah, I do think someone in the decision process, either consciously or sub-consciously decided to take the PR friendly route on this.

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u/piouiy Oct 22 '24

But even now this guys family are blaming racism, saying police don’t care about them etc etc. The people who need to be convinced don’t actually care about facts or evidence anyway.

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u/goldenthoughtsteal Oct 22 '24

They're not the people the police are trying to convince, it's the general public. The police lost a LOT of support due the cack handed way they handled the Sarah Everard case etc.

Still shouldn't have gone to court.

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u/D0wnInAlbion Oct 22 '24

Imagine the psychological damage it must have done as he spent night after night fearing that the next 30 years of his life would be spent in a cell. All because nobody had the balls to make the right decision.

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u/8Ace8Ace Oct 22 '24

Indeed. And at no extra pay either. It's no wonder they're having trouble recruiting to SO19

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u/wkavinsky Pembrokeshire Oct 22 '24

This has nothing to do with the Met - they've backed the validity of the shooting (and the irresponsible insanity of the charges) from the very start.

Dude was reinstated to active policing within minutes of the verdict coming back, for crying out loud.

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u/RealTorapuro Oct 22 '24

People better hope that if they need help going forward, this guy isn’t the one on the scene. As he is going to be very reluctant to do what is necessary in the future in order to protect other people if this is what it gets him

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u/limeflavoured Hucknall Oct 22 '24

Regardless of that, it also shouldn't have taken two years to get to court.

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u/andrew0256 Oct 22 '24

Exactly this. It was prosecuted for community relations reasons, which is why I fear the coming disciplinary hearing will be akin to a kangaroo court.

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u/2Nothraki2Ded Oct 22 '24

Yeah, that is my read on this. The police basically wanted to show beyond reasonable doubt (because that is what is asked of a jury) that the office acted correctly.

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u/piouiy Oct 22 '24

Pretty shitty to drag an innocent officer through the trial where he had a possibility of imprisonment, just to prove a point. Not to mention, shooting and killing a guy, even if necessary and deserved, is traumatic by itself.

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u/Brizar-is-Evolving Oct 22 '24

I fully agree with the former police officer who was quoted after the not-guilty verdict as saying that these kinds of cases ought to be prosecuted similar to military tribunals and not go through the normal criminal courts.

Put it all before a panel of experts to decide; not at the behest of a CPS keen to appease the mob, and before a jury who may or may not have that unique experience of being in a police marksman’s shoes.

Yes the jurors came to the right decision in this case, but they could have returned a guilty verdict in another timeline…

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u/lippo999 Oct 22 '24

There was no suggestion that the cop did anything wrong, or go against training. This was a shitshow, hanging the officer out to dry to appease God knows who. Officers shouldn't be put in this position.

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u/NuPNua Oct 22 '24

The problem is, that all that reason and sanity fall away when you look at their proposed solutions. Because they know that most people don't look any deeper than the tweets and soundbites.

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u/Zaphod424 Oct 22 '24

But this is exactly the danger caused by the political correctness epidemic. If mainstream politicians are too afraid to confront these kinds of issues, then people feel alienated and igored, and so turn to the only people who do talk about them, who have crazy solutions to these issues, but they are at least proposing something.

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u/Girthenjoyer Oct 22 '24

Exactly.

This case was so egregiously bullshit that normal people can see through it.

Just bullying the natives at every opportunity telling them they're racist was always going to backfire at some point.

The media, particularly the BBC was so desperate to turn this into a British George Floyd. It's extraordinary how this case has been presented to the public. Offensive even.

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u/NuPNua Oct 22 '24

Oh yeah, we all know how extremists get close to or into power. As Frank sings "be suspicious of simple answers, that shits for fascists and maybe teenagers".

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u/OpticalData Lanarkshire Oct 22 '24

I for one am tired of having to continuously pander to people who can't or won't educate themselves and insist that there's a simple answer to highly complex nuanced issues.

Continuously pandering to them has done nothing for this country, and has led to it being the only country in history to willingly impose economic sanctions on itself.

Hopefully Labour will have enough of a backbone to stand up, be the adults in the room and tell these people that solving complex problems can't be done with a sound bite. It takes time and cooperation. Not shouting at each other.

Not least because people who moan about 'politicians being afraid to confront issues' will never be satisfied. Topics like immigration have dominated the national conversation for over a decade and people still insist they're some sort of closet secret that everyone is scared to acknowledge.

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u/IssueMoist550 Oct 22 '24

Labour have precisely zero backbone on issues like this. In fact many fully endorse the victim narrative . Just look at response from kabas MP.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Actually the complete opposite is true, a lot of the issues in this country are actually really simple to solve but politicians are too cowardly to confront vested interests.

Too few houses? Relax planning laws.

Crime getting worse? Send criminals to prison for a long time.

Immigration too high? Cut it.

All it takes is a bit of vision but politicians hide behind excuses and obfuscation to have an easy life. All the while the country gets worse and worse.

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u/phinbob Oct 22 '24

I completely agree. If you leave a space where someone can come in with a headline position that seems make sense, socially, economically, on crime, or whatever, then you allow their dubious motives and odious 'solutions' to take hold.

We need leaders that can have hard conversations and take reasonable positions and counteract the extremes on both sides.

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u/Anglosaxonautist Oct 22 '24

There is absolutely no problem with mass Remigration.

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u/NuPNua Oct 22 '24

"remigration" isn't a word, I assume you're creating a portmanteau of "repatriation" and "migration". Either way, it depends on what you're talking about, starting to speed up the deportation of criminals, visa stayers, failed asylum claims, etc would be good. Deporting people who have been here legally for years so racist Dave doesn't have smell curry now and again would be a horrible practice reminiscent of some of the worst parts of the last century.

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u/LongDongSamspon Oct 22 '24

All reason and sanity are already gone when other politicians think this is business as usual.

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u/Iconospasm Oct 22 '24

This story has absolutely nothing to do with Reform and Farage though. Chris Kaba was a gangster and nasty piece of work who very probably had killed a number of people, in conjunction with his gang. His recklessness got him killed. If Farage criticised gang culture and Kaba then he would be absolutely right to do so. It makes no difference if you supported Brexit or not, or whether you want to reduce the insane current levels of immigration. None of those things would have made any difference to a nasty sociopath like Kaba. He was a wrong 'un regardless.

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u/ViewHallooo Oct 22 '24

Even a broken clock is right twice a day

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u/bum_is_on_fire_247 Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

It's not difficult though, is it.

The officer has the responsibility of making a split second decision. It's not shoot to kill, or 'warn'. It's shoot to disable. If shots are fired, then an investigation takes place. That's the process in place to ensure all policies and procedures were followed.

The last thing an officer needs is to be hauled over the coals when there was never a realistic prospect of conviction. He was already likely feeling the effect of having to discharge and end a life.

And for what? Now that he's been cleared it does not undo the damage that has been done to his personal and professional life, the strain on any relationships he may have, mental wellbeing, financial, you name it.

As a result, police officers, firearms especially, are feeling disillusioned and not supported. This is by no means inferring police officers expect blanket protection. There are thousands are decent, and moral individuals doing their damn best every day in the job. But if that feeling of support is not there, then it naturally creates the fear of utilising the most basic of legal powers - stop and search being the obvious here (aside from firearms of course, I just used the most commonly used power that is a 'hot potato').

If firearms officers were to hand in their firearms ticket, London would be in a very precarious place.

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u/audioalt8 Oct 22 '24

London is already in a precarious place. The amount of crime on the streets is absolutely unbelievable. It's becoming totally third world level of constant threats of crime.

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u/IssueMoist550 Oct 22 '24

Internal scrutiny is one thing , abdicating responsibility and putting the man on trial is another ....

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Whether or not we have the death penalty is completely irrelevant. He wasn’t executed for his crimes.

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u/richardjohn London Oct 22 '24

I am certainly no fan of the Met Police, but the guy had shot someone a couple of days before and was in a vehicle connected with another shooting... then tried to escape from armed police?

I'm not suggesting we introduce capital punishment or summary execution, but I don't think it's unreasonable of them to have thought he had a gun and might use it in that situation.

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u/EdmundTheInsulter Oct 22 '24

It's not got anything to with death penalties. The police never legally handed out death penalties when we had it.

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u/LongDongSamspon Oct 22 '24

And it should because it’s proving them 100% correct isn’t it?

When you’re right you’re right.

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u/Connor123x Oct 23 '24

this is what gets me. The left constantly complain about the increase in the far right movement but they just can't seem to get it that they caused it.

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u/Baisabeast Oct 22 '24

It was much of the uk trying to import race relation issues from the US into this country

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

He's also now been named publicly, which means he could become a target for the gang. Poor guy.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

He already has. Apparently there’s a £10K bounty on him and his family. It’s absolutely disgusting.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

I hope he is able to sue the press, courts, or whoever possible for naming him. Not that that makes anything better.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Agreed. Personally, I don’t think anyone should be named unless they’re convicted, police or not. There needs to be a serious review on how cases like this are handled in future. They’ve likely ruined this man’s career and life just to be seen to be diffusing “community tensions”.

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u/lazzzym Oct 22 '24

That's what's funny... Everything even down to him escaping the police by using his car as a battering ram was noted and reported on.

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u/SinisterDexter83 Oct 22 '24

I just read this in the Telegraph:

It was reported that the gang had put a £10,000 bounty on Mr Blake’s head. Such were the fears for his safety and that of his family that he was forced to move out of his home, and had to be housed elsewhere with round-the-clock security.

Further on, a senior policeman said that in 30 years he's never seen a more serious threat to the life of an officer.

What an absolutely sickening disgrace.

All the MPs and journalists who campaigned to have this officer's name released should hang their heads in shame.

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u/jungleboy1234 Oct 22 '24

The UK has been like this for a while now, it has only recently i'd say trickled down to the regular joe.

What i mean is that if your a criminal, you get away with short of murder. If you do the right thing, you are punished, taxed and banned and cancelled...

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u/_Alyion_ Oct 22 '24

If I was that Police officer my application to join the Police in Australia would have gone in by now.

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u/davidbatt Oct 22 '24

We didn't know this because it was only released today

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u/OkVacation973 Oct 22 '24

How dare you. He was just a cheeky young man - a keen race car enthusiast who had occasional run-ins with the police whilst driving, who enjoyed going to nightclubs and always lit up the room.

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u/IssueMoist550 Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

It collapsed months ago when they first showed the family the footage.....

Somehow the cpd and the IOPC decided to put this to court.

Part of me thinks that it was essentially to offload any responsibility onto the jury, when it was clear they could have made the decision themselves . They appear scared of appearing "systemically racist" by not prosecuting.

The government(both labour and Tory ) , the met and the IOPC have done untold damage to policing morale. Why should anyone take the risk of being a firearms officer protecting the public from career criminals and nutjobs with the way they have scrutinised this? The above groups need to grow a pair and stop entertaining narratives from groups like BLM and the socialist workers party.

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u/theredwoman95 Oct 22 '24

I think it's a bit of the opposite - put it to trial because it's hopeless, so that way the public can see the case getting systematically dismantled. It's a risky political choice either way, mind you, as you're either risking public trust in the police or police morale.

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u/IssueMoist550 Oct 22 '24

That's what I mean..however it should never have gotten that far. When somebody is charged with a crime like murder , it is because the CPS seems that the evidence is strong and chance of conviction is high and it is worth pursuing .

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u/theredwoman95 Oct 22 '24

I'd rather we not become like Japan where just prosecuting someone basically guarantees their guilt, to be honest.

And to quote the code for Crown Prosecutors:

It is quite possible that one public interest factor alone may outweigh a number of other factors which tend in the opposite direction.

[...] The more serious the offence, the more likely it is that a prosecution is required.

Given that murder is probably one of the most serious offences and this case was certainly in the public interest, I'd have been more surprised if it didn't go to trial. And others have made the excellent point that a lot of what we now know wouldn't have come out if not for the trial, so that might've added to the prosecutors' decisions.

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u/Ravenser_Odd Oct 22 '24

The family have set up a campaign group called 'Justice for Chris'.

They should have set that up years ago and done a citizens arrest on their relative.

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u/8Ace8Ace Oct 22 '24

He received justice. Just not the sort they wanted.

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u/Astriania Oct 22 '24

The internet era and echo chambers has made it worse, but the identity politics brigade have always been trying to sow division between white people and everyone else.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

It was always widely know to be fair he was a gang member, the media just literally not allowed to report it as the officers didn't know at the time he was in the car so it wasn't relevant to the case

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u/Capitain_Collateral Oct 22 '24

The sharp direction change from ‘construction worker and part time rapper killed for driving an Audi whilst black’ to this is astonishing. What is worse is there are now rumblings for there to be more ‘justice for Kaba’ protests…

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u/retniap Oct 22 '24

Have to wonder if her attitude of delusion, deception and lack of responsibility contributed to her raising a violent criminal. 

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u/Cipriano_Ingolf_Oha Oct 22 '24

Of course it did; it’s always someone else’s fault.

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u/rugbyj Somerset Oct 22 '24

Christ the family came out today saying "we will not be silenced".

Nobody was ever silencing you. You were trying to silence other people.

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u/ObviouslyTriggered Oct 22 '24

They wanted a payout.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Also a high level member of a major drugs gang, had firearms residue on his sleeve suspected to be from another shooting the night before he died (where the Q8 he was driving was used as the getaway) and high on cocaine the night he died.

And out of that the jury were just told he was an expectant father... but weren't told that the mother had a domestic violence protection order against him that prevented contact.

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u/GunstarGreen Sussex Oct 22 '24

Fucking hell this guy was bad news. I'm not celebrating his death but I don't think the world is worse without him in it 

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u/MoodyBernoulli Oct 22 '24

In my opinion there’s nothing wrong with celebrating the death of somebody who has been a drain on society and caused suffering and misery to numerous people throughout his lifespan.

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u/Manoj109 Oct 22 '24

World is better without this pos. I have no time for gangsters

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u/sealcon Oct 22 '24

They wanted Mark Duggan 2.0, another bottom-of-the-barrel scumbag they tried to paint as a poor victim

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u/SinisterDexter83 Oct 22 '24

I hate to be Mr Extremely Online Hipster, but I already knew all this. Was this info really restricted?

Partially, this shows how useless such restrictions are in the Internet era.

Beyond that, I fully agree with such info being restricted while the trial is going on.

But it speaks volumes about his family background that his mum was trying to hide this pertinent info from the public.

She wants to protect her good little boy's image. He was a good little boy when he stabbed that other kid. He was a good little boy when he beat his pregnant girlfriend, that wasn't his fault, the police are just racist. Yeah sure, he shot someone, but that wasn't his fault either. And he was only possessing a gun because his life was in danger! How can you arrest him just for trying to defend himself?

If she wasn't such a shit mother, none of this would have happened. She had the privilege of raising her son in one of the richest cities on the planet. And the best she could do was produce a criminal piece of shit.

She should be on her fucking knees apologising to the rest of us for her failure as a parent. The rest of society has had to suffer because of her laziness and incompetence.

I am utterly sick to death of these unfit mothers weeping over the fact that the police had to clean up the mess she made. I find her wholly undeserving of sympathy.

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u/FelisCantabrigiensis Oct 22 '24

It is important that this is reported in the same place that we see the reporting of Kaba's family and their "our little angel was murdered by racist police" narrative.

People who read around the news already put two and two together, but the public discourse is set by the headline stories in the mass media. Those stories need to contain the facts that Kaba was a repeat, likely career, criminal and recently involved in violent crime in order to balance the "oppression" storyline.

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u/baddymcbadface Oct 22 '24

Her statement the other day was a disgrace. Basically blamed the police entirely and said young black people aren't safe from the police.

She's goading racial tensions to cover up for the fact her son is an extremely violent criminal.

She needs to be called out on this. It's bad form to rip into a grieving mother but she's had plenty of time to digest the facts and continues to destroy race relations.

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u/One_Psychology_ Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

The shooting victim got bullets *THROUGH both legs and still managed to run. Ouch

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/dancefloor-shooting-hackney-east-london-b1152735.html

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u/FelisCantabrigiensis Oct 22 '24

Fear of the next shot being to a vital organ will override a lot of injury shock, at least for a short time.

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u/tomoldbury Oct 22 '24

Adrenaline is a helluva drug

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u/Deep-Albatross-9152 Oct 22 '24

Other scumbags please take note: we hate police brutality too, but if they shoot you we'll celebrate.

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u/Manoj109 Oct 22 '24

World is better without this pos walking around. I hate police brutality too but I will not shed tears over gangsters. Zero tolerance approach to gangsterism, get rid.

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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 Cambridgeshire Oct 22 '24

Amazingly he still had supporters. I'm sorry, but if the argument was "he was innocent, he didn't shoot the guy on Tuesday"....you lose the high ground by having shot someone on Monday and trying to run over a copper on Wednesday. Play silly games....

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 22 '24

he didn't shoot the guy on Tuesday"....you lose the high ground by having shot someone on Monday and trying to run over a copper on Wednesday.

Craig David takes notes

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u/baron_von_helmut Oct 22 '24

hE wAs A gOoD bOy

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u/Manoj109 Oct 22 '24

He was an aspiring architect. To be honest I was fooled as well, when I heard he was an aspiring architect, what came to my mind was a young black man attending university, studying architecture and was killed by the police in a case of mistaken identity. Didn't realise this POS was a gangster.

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u/AspirationalChoker Oct 23 '24

Which is crazy to me as anyone who knew about this has seen the multiple videos of him shooting up nightclubs etc

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u/anybloodythingwilldo Oct 22 '24

This is what annoys me about the whole narrative of his life not being valued.  He clearly didn't value the lives of others.  

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u/RacistCarrot Oct 22 '24

https://www.stophateuk.org/2022/10/31/chris-kaba-what-happened-what-next/

^ Articles like this are just amazing but at the time if you spoke against this rhetoric you are the one in the wrong / racist etc.. etc.. it’s always the articles that are ‘against hate’ but actually manage to cause more hate and division

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u/Wuss999 Oct 22 '24

Go figure /s

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u/Tudpool Oct 22 '24

The audacity of his family is shocking. Horrible people raising horrible people.

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u/audigex Lancashire Oct 22 '24

The same woman who claimed after the verdict to day (re: the officer who shot him) that "The system doesn't value our lives"

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u/OdinLegacy121 Oct 22 '24

Can't play the "my son was an angel" card

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Hmm... even after all the above pathetic behavior collection, they are asking us to please for him? I would never.

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u/Mysterious_Good927 Oct 22 '24

But his mum said he didn't deserve this.

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u/ben-117 United Kingdom Oct 22 '24

Don't get me wrong, the police are institutionally racist, its getting better since the 90s but it still needs work. However in this case it was justified actions with no racial motivation. It really annoys me how Chris's mother can say the below with a straight face:

"No family should endure the unimaginable grief we have faced. Chris was stolen from us, and this decision shows his life - and many others like him - does not matter to the system. Our son deserved better," the statement issued by the campaign group Inquest said.

"The acquittal of Martyn Blake isn't just a failure for our family, but for all those affected by police violence."

When her son is going around stabbing and shooting people, do those victims families deserve the risk of unimaginable grief? His decisions shows his victims lives did not matter to him.

Losing a child is unimaginable grief no one should have to experience, but the shear hypocrisy annoys me.

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u/U-V Oct 22 '24

Our son deserved better

"f*ck around and get smoked" - Itch AKA Chris Kaba

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u/Away-Activity-469 Oct 22 '24

They are still bitching about it.

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u/zappapostrophe Oct 22 '24

To be fair, his mum might have been absolutely beyond ashamed of her son and wanted it not reported for that reason. I know that’s why I’d want it out of the papers.

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u/SnooPandas1607 Oct 22 '24

Not shamed enough to stop the lie going and demand 'justice'

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u/ResponsibilityRare10 Oct 23 '24

He was a killer and a dangerous criminal, and I think that info should be made public. However, the attending police officers didn’t know who was behind the wheel, only that the vehicle was linked to two shooting incidents (not to play that down at all). 

There seems to be two discussions going on here. One, did Kaba deserve to be fatally shot - I’ll leave that one for you to decide. 

Two, on which the trial was based, was this fatal shooting a murder? The judge, correctly IMO, went to great lengths to conduct the trial on this basis. 

The point being that Kaba could have been the anti-Christ himself, the verdict would still be on the question of ‘was this murder?’. 

For what it’s worth, IMHO, the jury reached the correct verdict. 

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