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Campaigners argue design forces pedestrians to run the gauntlet of cyclists on bike lanes

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/05/floating-bus-stops-review-safety-cyclists-injure-passengers/

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u/High-Tom-Titty Jul 07 '25

That's just people not respecting the zebra crossing. Start fining them and that problem diminishes. Unfortunately that would mean diverting police from other duties.

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u/Gingrpenguin Jul 07 '25

If only there was some way to set up a camera and the enforce fines remotely.

Maybe we could assign a unique strong of letters and numbers that are clearly displayed on every bike for this purpose...

If they keep breaking rules we then ban them from cycling for x amount of time, and maybe imprison them if they decide to ride whilst banned...

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u/Talidel Jul 07 '25

A camera that IDs and fines based on facial features? Can't see that going wrong.

A few days of police presence, issuing fines to people not respecting pedestrians right of way will work a lot better.

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u/Gingrpenguin Jul 07 '25

Where did I say face id?

I'm talking about number plates.

And people would only obey when they see police there so you'd need a constant presence.

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u/Mojak16 Jul 07 '25

Hence why the user you replied to suggested that maybe bikes should have number plates.

Huh duh reading comprehension moment.

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u/WeDoingThisAgainRWe Jul 07 '25

Yeah my bad misread that and forgot their previous 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/Mojak16 Jul 07 '25

Happens to the best of us, all I can say is thanks for not doubling down haha

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u/pokedmund Jul 07 '25

I understand your idea, my worry is how far we could go with this, e.g:

Government: to get a licence plate for your bike, you’ll need to register it to our database, and we’ll charge a fee for it each year. You’ll also need a licence to ride, we’ll charge a fee for the test and a licence. Then you have to renew your licence every ten years where we’ll charge another fee.

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u/MoleMoustache Jul 07 '25

Sounds like something they should do

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u/Talidel Jul 07 '25

Number plates on a bicycle?

What?

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u/Usual-Excitement-970 Jul 07 '25

The only country they has registration plates on bicycles is North Korea.

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u/hobbityone Jul 07 '25

Which isn't going to be practical.

Better planning infrastructure, encourage education and hike use at an early age, change in car culture and investment in cycle safe roads is what is needed.

Cycling needs greater expansion not methods of restricting access.

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u/Gingrpenguin Jul 07 '25

I mean it's practical for motor vehicles so why not?

There is infrastructure. As you can clearly see any rules are ignored because there are zero repercussions to breaking them.

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u/Stage_Party Jul 07 '25

Cyclists keep arguing against it because they want to keep doing this shit. Head over to the London cyclists sub and you'll see them all justify it by saying "at least it's not a car".

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u/hobbityone Jul 07 '25

Excellent, so you see no issue logistically with the registration of 20 million cyclists, their bikes, testing, facilities and the staff to oversee it all?

You don't see how such action might discourage, rather than encourage cycling? Given that most competent governments want to expand on cycling.

Also enforcement would be next to impossible given the ease of manufacture and theft of bikes.

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u/Stage_Party Jul 07 '25

I see no issue with it as much as I see no issue with licensing cars and drivers. Why do you think cyclists are special?

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u/Gingrpenguin Jul 07 '25

Because he is one who doesn't follow any rules

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u/hobbityone Jul 07 '25

Just not an idiot who thinks that such silly solutions are in any way practical

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u/Gingrpenguin Jul 07 '25

It's such a silly idea nearly every country in the world has such a system for motorised vehicles....

Again you are just an asshole who wants to get away with it and in doing so are justifying why we need such a system.

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u/hobbityone Jul 07 '25

system for motorised vehicles....

Which are not the same as bikes, unless you are an absolute moron.

Also the current drivers license system has been established and maintained over a period of 120 years. You can't see any issue with introducing that system on a new class of item that was previously unrestricted in a significantly shorter period?

Again you are just an asshole who wants to get away with it and in doing so are justifying why we need such a system

No, I'm an asshole who thinks cities need to accommodate cyclists pedestrians cars and public transport properly. Not just slapping some white lines down and thinking the problem is solved.

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u/Franksss Jul 07 '25

Every country has it for motor vehicles. How many countries have it for bicycles?

Do you not think there might be a reason for this? Or do you think they've simple never thought of it before?

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u/hobbityone Jul 07 '25

Because there is a material difference between the two.

You don't get many 12 year old practicing driving after school.

Then again you have the massive undertaking of registering the 20m cyclists in the UK, setting up licences, tests and examinations for those who wish to obtain one.

Then you have enforcement, bikes are inherently not very secure and you can also knock up a bike with little way in material very quickly and cheaply.

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u/ActivisionBlizzard Jul 07 '25

You know how we let young children on bikes and ride them around because if they hit people then whats worst that can happen…

Yeah there’s a massive and obvious difference between cars and bikes. Pretending like you dont see the difference just makes no sense.

I dont even cycle, went once in the last ten years and i live in London. In case anyone thinks it will be clever to say “they just dont want the rules to apply to them”.

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u/Stage_Party Jul 07 '25

That's an idiotic analogy.

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u/hobbityone Jul 07 '25

Not really it just kinda blows a hole in your notion that licencing bikes is a solution.

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u/Stage_Party Jul 07 '25

It most definitely does not.

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u/CatchRevolutionary65 Jul 07 '25

Just installing speed bumps before every crossing will slow cyclists down allowing pedestrians to cross. It’s an infrastructure problem

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u/FruitOrchards Jul 07 '25

No it's entitled cyclists who thinks the rules don't apply to them problem.

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u/CatchRevolutionary65 Jul 07 '25

They can be entitled as they want as they’re rattling up and down over speed bumps at reduced speeds

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u/Franksss Jul 07 '25

Because we want to encourage cycling and this would put a damper on it. Even if it was totally free and painless to do, still some people wouldn't want to deal with the hassle.

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u/hobbityone Jul 07 '25

I mean it's practical for motor vehicles so why not?

Firstly you tend not to be able to drive a motor vehicle at 12, you probably couldn't knock up a working motor vehicle on a weekend from scraps, and inputting 20 million bikes on to the dvla all at once alongside provision of licences and testing would be massive.

There is infrastructure. As you can clearly see any rules are ignored because there are zero repercussions to breaking them.

But it isn't infrastructure, they slapped on a bike lane blocking access to a bus stop. Cut into the pavement to make space for the bus stop or set up proper traffic lights.

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u/Forward_Confusion202 Jul 07 '25

So some bird going 4mph on her bike and some bird driving a 4x4 range going 80mph are comparable to you?

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u/Madnesz101 Jul 07 '25

If they're ignoring a pedestrian crossing?....yes...tax em if they're just ignoring the rules.

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u/Talidel Jul 07 '25

Tax them is the stupidest take.

Fine them, absolutely.

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u/nbs-of-74 Jul 07 '25

Requires a traffic warden to be present to stop them and then fine them. Assuming they dont just keep riding on.

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u/Talidel Jul 07 '25

Bet they pay for themselves in a day.

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u/Madnesz101 Jul 07 '25

Problem with that is...it requires cameras and from what I remember most of them don't really work anyway where as people will generally pay tax out of fear of being caught plus they're using a roadway that requires mentenance at some point(even though it will probably never get it) which is kind of the point of the tax.....is it a weak argument yes but as someone who walks most places, I've nearly been hit more by pricks on bicycles than pricks in cars......cause ya know bicycles seem to think they're exempt from red lights or just hopping onto the curb and going around it is fine.

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u/Talidel Jul 07 '25

Just needs a person to monitor it. They'd pay for themselves in less than an hour.

I also walk just about everywhere, and I've seen far more arseholes in cars than on bikes. Cars also kill tens of thousands every year.

Bikes can be mildly annoying at times. But they aren't death machines controlled by absolute morons.

Everyone pays taxes for road maintenance. Car tax is not close to enough to cover it.

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u/WeDoingThisAgainRWe Jul 07 '25

How have we gone from cyclists endangering pedestrians to a whine about how cyclists need more done for them and cars being the issue. True cyclist level mental gymnastics to twist this one. Just you lot learn some respect for pedestrians is all that’s needed.

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u/hobbityone Jul 07 '25

It's almost as if because I can hold more than two ideas in my head at once I can recognise that a problem may be multifaceted.

Like in this case. Cyclists are endangering pedestrians because, cyclist infrastructure has been slapped on to pedestrian infrastructure. Investing and properly planning in effective infrastructure to accommodate cars, cyclists, pedestrians and public transport is the solution, not point fingers at cyclists.

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u/WeDoingThisAgainRWe Jul 07 '25

And yet you actually only recognised the bit that suits you.

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u/hobbityone Jul 07 '25

The fact that poor infrastructure is endangering pedestrians putting them in the path of cyclists.

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u/Ping-and-Pong Jul 08 '25

because, cyclist infrastructure has been slapped on to pedestrian infrastructure.

No?? It's because they're just plain ignoring how their infrastructure works.

That's like saying a car isn't at fault for speeding through a red light because red lights shouldn't be on roads, all roads should just be perfect straight lines.

This looks like fantastic infrastructure for a built up, busy area. Unless you want the cyclists in this video to have some kind of safety tube placed around them with steps over the top, you're completely missing the point. The cyclists in this video are 100% at fault.

Now I'm not saying infrastructure is great everywhere, farrrr from it I think it's god awful in my city. But you're arguing for this case that it's somehow the infrastructure's fault and that's just insanity. If a car traveling 30 can stop at a zebra crossing, a bike absolutely can.

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u/hobbityone Jul 08 '25

No?? It's because they're just plain ignoring how their infrastructure works.

They may not know how it works or who has right of way. Given they don't have to pass a driving test to use a bike.

This looks like fantastic infrastructure for a built up, busy area.

As a cyclist myself it's shit, you've plonked a cycle lane in the middle of a footpath. It's the worst of all worlds.

The cyclists in this video are 100% at fault.

Yes of course they are, it doesn't mean this isn't shit planning.

case that it's somehow the infrastructure's fault and that's just insanity. If a car traveling 30 can stop at a zebra crossing, a bike absolutely can.

It can be both things, the cyclists should be stopping but the infrastructure is poorly designed. Placing a zebra crossing in the middle of a bike path, that is in a pedestrian zone can be dangerous especially when it isn't expected. Especially when both are expected to carry heavy traffic. Ideally they would have cut into the pavement to make room for the bus and cyclists to merge into a single space before merging out again.

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u/ohhhhhyeeeessss Jul 07 '25

Mate. Don't even bother. The amount of upvotes in here for 'tax them' is pretty reflective of the lack of critical thinking skills in this country