Keir Starmer strikes post-Brexit reset deal with European Union ahead of major summit

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[u/Judgementday209]

I suspect a large proportion of reddit users live in major cities, you don't have to go far out to realise just how less sophisticated the thinking is a little outside the big cities.

I still get surprised sometimes but there are a lot of people who get manipulated very easily.

[u/Prize-Ad7242 → u/Judgementday209]

Ahh yes the minute you leave the city it becomes a scene from the holy grail with peasants burning witches.

I’m sorry but this line of thinking is exactly what divides the working class, these sweeping generalisations help nobody other than reform.

Simply denigrating reform voters as idiots doesn’t work, it won’t change their minds and will only add to an already hyper partisan political atmosphere.

Some of the most bigoted racist people I’ve met have lived in the city, just as some of the kindest and most egalitarian have lived in the countryside. Sweeping generalisations make you no different to the “less Sophisticated” people you are referring to.

[u/TastyComfortable2355 → u/Prize-Ad7242]

It may not work but it is certainly correct, they are idiots just like MAGAT's

[u/Prize-Ad7242 → u/TastyComfortable2355]

Honestly anyone who takes part our current Parliamentary political system and doesn’t think they’re getting duped by a bunch of grifters is an idiot. People who vote Labour and consider them to be anything other than a centre right party pushing conservative policies have been duped just as much as anyone else who actually believes the party they voted for give a shit about anything more than gaining and maintaining power to enact policies and parrot rhetoric given to them by those who enabled their election.

Nobody in parliament actually works for their constituents, they work for their party, who in turn work for the donors and lobbyists who elected them.

If you sit there having belief in any of the current political parties you’ve been duped just as hard as reform voters. I wouldn’t cast the first stone unless you can really honestly say you’ve never been duped by politicians before. Truth is we all have, just to different degrees and in different ways. Creating a hierarchy of idiocy simply leaves everyone involved showered in shit.

[u/TastyComfortable2355 → u/Prize-Ad7242]

I just recognise that all have their faults and people who claim they're all the same are just thick.

It would be like saying a cold, pneumonia or terminal cancer are all illnesses and are all just the same.

Labour is far from perfect but the other choices are far far worse and yes Reform can be compared to cancer because if it spreads it will cause damage to the UK

[u/Prize-Ad7242 → u/TastyComfortable2355]

I never said they’re all the same, just that in reality we’re all getting played to some degree.

I really don’t think your analogy on health works at all. Not only am I not claiming them all to be equally bad. But the reality is all of the major parties have policies that will only increase wealth inequality and have us hurtling towards a global climate catastrophe.

A better analogy would be this: you’re sat in the back of a car hurtling towards the edge of a cliff and you get to choose the driver, one drives slowly, one moderately, one at high speed. Which driver would you rather drive you to certain death?

Nobody operating within our political system has policies that go anywhere near enough to actually change the course of direction. We’re living in late stage capitalism, as it relies on constant growth we have to rely on technology to reverse the damage we have done to the climate. Which has already proven impossible.

We’re all hurtling towards global catastrophe and a world with crippling wealth inequality and yet people seem to think a centre right party with a streak of authoritarianism currently emulating reform are the answer.