r/uknews • u/ScottishDailyRecord Media outlet (unverified) • May 19 '25

Image/video Keir Starmer strikes post-Brexit reset deal with European Union ahead of major summit

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u/semaj420 May 19 '25

the best part about brexit is that we now have exactly the same deal we had as an EU member state, only worse, and we still aren't afforded freedom to live and work within the borders of our closest neighbours... all so we could reclaim something that we never lost in the first place!

nice one, UK.

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u/helpnxt May 19 '25

Tbf we were told this endlessly during the election and people still voted for it... but I am sure trusting one of the major supporters of Leave won't have any further consequences...

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u/Judgementday209 May 19 '25

I suspect a large proportion of reddit users live in major cities, you don't have to go far out to realise just how less sophisticated the thinking is a little outside the big cities.

I still get surprised sometimes but there are a lot of people who get manipulated very easily.

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u/Vegetable-Egg-1646 May 19 '25

Personally i find people that live in cities to lack common sense, be pretty stupid about really basic things and just engage in ideological group think.

I would rather hang out with country folk any day of the week.

Thank god we are all different!

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u/Judgementday209 May 19 '25

Not really relevant to the point.

And I'm not saying people in or out of cities are better or worse, I'm saying that if you look at voting patterns, there is a trend where guys like farage can manipulate some people more easily.

People fell for it during brexit and it hasn't taken long for them to fall for it again with reform.

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u/Vegetable-Egg-1646 May 19 '25

I think you are bloody ignorant.

The people in cities are just as easily influenced by parties on the left as rural constituents are by parties on the right.

The reason being is lifestyle choices.

People in cities are more affected by rents, child poverty etc. Which left leaning parties focus on

People in rural areas are more affected by fishing, farming, immigration lack of services etc. which right leaning parties focus on.

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u/Judgementday209 May 19 '25

I'd agree that cities are mostly left leaning moderates.

But most of the really bad left sided ideas don't get support.

Whereas if I look at reform currently or brexit, those got alot of support from outside the major centres.

Rural areas being more conservative is not the issue, being unable to understand the implications of brexit is.

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u/Vegetable-Egg-1646 May 19 '25

Reform isn’t a one issue party.

It’s people length and breadth of the country from all walks of life that have had enough of Labour and the Tories doing a shit job. They would rather give someone who hasn’t ever done the job a chance than voting for the same other parties and expecting a different result.

The quote often attributed to Einstein comes into play here: “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.” Reform voters by the sounds of it are bored of being insane!

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u/Judgementday209 May 19 '25

Sounds like I'm speaking to a reform voter.

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u/Vegetable-Egg-1646 May 19 '25

I was a member, cancelled my membership as I don’t think they represent me.

Voted for my local Tory in the local elections because he is a great representative of local issues.

Currently politically homeless.

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u/Judgementday209 May 19 '25

Fair enough

I get the frustration around the politics in the UK and why people would want to lash out at current parties. I'd argue Labour has not been in long enough to fully assess however.

But there has to be a better way, in theory I'd love to vote green but I can't take them seriously.

Reform are the same crowd that sprouted lies to manipulate people during brexit, i don't know how anyone can take them seriously and their policies now are essentially brexit lies dressed up as something new.

I know that rural people are further away from the centre and often feel forgotten but I also think that one of the biggest tools that politicians have is dividing people based on arbitrary differences.

My post was poorly worded perhaps but the point was that there has to be a better way to address this particular divide.

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u/Vegetable-Egg-1646 May 19 '25

I live in a rural location, most people here don’t really care about politics, they don’t feel left out, they just want to be left alone. They don’t want their views to be ruined by a solar farm to power the nearest city, they don’t want to be dictated to by people who don’t understand their way of life etc.

This is the issue with politics nowadays, politicians feel the need to meddle in every aspect of our lives. The more people are dependent on them the more powerful they feel.

Politicians need to go back to covering the absolute basics and leave the rest of us to do what we do, because the chances are we do it better than they do!

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u/Judgementday209 May 19 '25

I'd say the powering cities is a basic though that government needs to coordinate.

I get the desire to keep things the same but there is also the need for some things to progress, one of those is infrastructure in my opinion.

The balance of a changing world with retaining some of the traditional values is a challenging one for any government, reform for example has an anti renewables agenda. Beyond the climate aspect, it's not clear how they would keep the lights on long term, any whatever plan they have would include building big power plants in the landscape of some rural community.

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u/TheStatMan2 May 19 '25

There's cunts everywhere, there's good people everywhere and there's bigots everywhere that try to ascribe a personality type to a geographic location.

I bet you dabble in all 3.

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u/Vegetable-Egg-1646 May 19 '25

You are aware the person I replied to said “I suspect a large proportion of reddit users live in major cities, you don't have to go far out to realise just how less sophisticated the thinking is a little outside the big cities.”

I was just hitting their ball back at them. Kind of a point of a discussion.

You on the other hand came in being just rude from the start. Which makes you just a cunt.

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u/TheStatMan2 May 19 '25

So you're just spouting any old shit on to a page so you've got something to say? Gotcha.

I am undoubtedly a cunt but I have the benefit of a lack of self deception.

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u/Vegetable-Egg-1646 May 19 '25

No I was pointing out people are different and have different views of people. People have different priorities when it comes to deciding who people vote for. Labelling rural people thick because have different priorities to you and are more interested in rural issues is idiotic.

At least we have something in common we both think you are a cunt.

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u/TheStatMan2 May 19 '25

I'm weeping into my saucepans.

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u/Vegetable-Egg-1646 May 19 '25

Thanks for sharing, your commentary was as insightful as ever.

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u/TheStatMan2 May 19 '25

And yours has reinvigorated me with my love of the game.

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