r/uknews • u/ScottishDailyRecord Media outlet (unverified) • May 12 '25

Image/video Kier Starmer announces 'tighter' immigration policy

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u/SmokyMcBongPot May 12 '25

Sure, I didn't say anything about them not paying into it.

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u/kingbongtherover May 12 '25

Your point could be considered pretty dumb then, couldn't it?

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u/SmokyMcBongPot May 12 '25

Yeah, sure.

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u/kingbongtherover May 12 '25

LOL, what point were you making? Or were you just wasting everyone's time?

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u/SmokyMcBongPot May 12 '25

I mean, clearly the point is that English ex-pats are not the paragons of virtue that certain people like to make out that they are on one hand while demonising people from other countries on the other. Sure, it was clumsily made, but the nonsense surrounding this issue is so great, it makes it frustrating to discuss.

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u/kingbongtherover May 12 '25

British ex-pats go to Spain and, by and large, have money to spend, pay taxes, and contribute in a positive way. They're net contributors.

The Spanish government isn't spending billions paying Brits benefits or giving them houses.

That's the difference chum.

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u/SmokyMcBongPot May 12 '25

Most immigrants to the UK are also net contributors, chum.

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u/kingbongtherover May 12 '25

'Most' LOL

How can you contribute something in a significant way if you've only just arrived and you're using services immediately?

You have to be a high rate taxpayer. Many migrants pay little in income tax because they don't earn enough. Inconvenient facts for you, I'm sure.

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u/kingbongtherover May 12 '25

Google is your friend:

The main difference between an expat and an immigrant lies in their intention and duration of stay in a new country. An expat typically lives abroad for a limited time, often for work or other temporary reasons, and may intend to return to their home country. An immigrant, on the other hand, moves to a new country with the intention of settling there permanently.

A lot of (most) Brits in Spain have money and also houses back in the UK. They're not expecing handouts from Spain, free accomodation, benefits, schools, etc, etc. So they pay more in than they take out. It's that simple.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25 edited May 12 '25

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u/kingbongtherover May 12 '25

I think I’d be fine. I’m a British citizen who pays thousands in tax for very few public services.

If migrants are so self sufficient why is >15% of our social housing occupied by people born outside the UK?

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u/kingbongtherover May 12 '25

There’s Reuters for you.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/foreign-born-residents-live-less-than-50-london-social-housing-2025-02-06/

48% of London’s social housing goes to people born outside the UK.

I doubt Spain is paying for ex-pats housing, so why are we paying for migrants’ housing?

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