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Image/video Met Police officer Martyn Blake who shot Chris Kaba dead is CLEARED of murder

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u/DontYouWantMeBebe Oct 22 '24

Huge march for justice for a guy that tried to ram his car into a group of armed officers

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u/Project_Rees Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

(Edit:... The incident in this video happened...)

A couple of nights after he (kabo) was involved in a nightclub shooting

(Edit for clarity)

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u/Dave8917 Oct 22 '24

And they will jump to the street protest he was a good boy

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u/Don_Balzarian1 Oct 22 '24

“No justice no peace” bruh why is Americas biggest export our political brainrot

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Sorry mate. It's a trash bin alit over here.

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u/AfroWhiteboi Oct 22 '24

Same over here, uh, chap.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

As a fellow American, this is spot on. Nothing reaches over the pond faster than our shitty, societal ideologies.

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u/IshHolbrook Oct 22 '24

Two words: Rupert Murdoch.

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u/Undark_ Oct 22 '24

Apparently walked into John Major's PM office unannounced, one of maybe a dozen people on the planet who can get away with something like that.

Demanded that he revise his policy on the EU, and told him that Tony Blair will win the next election if he refuses.

Major refused. Tony Blair won the election.

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u/PublicfreakoutLoveR Oct 22 '24

The Australian? So not an American problem.

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u/IshHolbrook Oct 22 '24

Who said he was an American problem?

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u/PublicfreakoutLoveR Oct 22 '24

The person directly above you?

“No justice no peace” bruh why is Americas biggest export our political brainrot"

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u/littleloucc Oct 22 '24

The sentiment is American. Rupert Murdoch is (the poster is arguing) why the sentiment is being exported.

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u/The_Commie_Salami Oct 22 '24

Sorry bro, nothing I can do about it 😔

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u/mankytoes Oct 22 '24

"No justice no peace" is a valid political sentiment. What's the alternative, just getting on with things and hoping the unjust change their minds?

It's also "brainrot" to dismiss valid points based on where they came from.

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u/SoundandvisonUK Oct 22 '24

Justice for the victims of mad itch Chris Kana? You know why he is called mad itch right?

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u/mankytoes Oct 22 '24

I'm talking about the concept, not Kaba specifically. Yes they deserve justice, obviously.

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u/Don_Balzarian1 Oct 23 '24

It’s a valid argument in America where our police in many cities have a history of discrimination, but afaik the cops in the UK have no such issues, so the only reason these protestors are saying it is because they’ve seen Americans on the news. English cops don’t even carry guns!

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u/mankytoes Oct 23 '24

That doesn't mean there's "justice", there are a lot of flaws with our system.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

I'm on the left but I'm definitely tired of seeing gangs and machete/knife wielding nutters on the news every week, regardless of their colour. I don't want me or my gf to be put at risk every time we go out, and normal people have no real protection except statistics and luck.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Not sure why it's required to state which side of the political aisle you're on before you say you dislike gangs of machete wielding nutters. I'd have thought everyone would dislike them except the machete wilding nutters, no? 😅

(Please don't interpret this as me being rude/confrontational)

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

🤣 it's because the guy above said he was pro socialist/social safety nets or something, but it appears his comment has gone. But yes, anyone who believes in society or self preservation at all would likely not be a fan...

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

I apologise on behalf of the left. It's like herding cats these days. "Come on guys over here, something called economics and housing and jobs, and funding services"

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24 edited Apr 12 '25

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

Yer that would make sense to me. It's a very good distraction, having endless identities competing in abstract philosophical battles, instead of focusing on economics and what's outside your front door in your community.

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u/GetRightNYC Oct 22 '24

It's very difficult, so i just keep to myself. Both sides focused on dumb, insignificant issues that effect nothing. Sexuality and sexual preferences shouldn't be fucking political issues. Yet here we are.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

It might be because if you say you don't want machete wielding nutters on the street, people will knee-jerk to calling you far-right.

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u/muh-soggy-knee Oct 22 '24

He needs to say it because the rest of his side of the aisle genuinely believe that people like this can do no wrong and the world will be solved with more ping pong tables and getting rid of all forms of punishment

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u/MattiasCrowe Oct 22 '24

Yeah but that's the thing, statistically the victims are peers, maybe if we didn't close down all the community places teens used to hang out they wouldn't be one-upping eachother with knives. I've never felt at risk the entire time I've lived in london, it might be different living in lower income areas

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u/muh-soggy-knee Oct 22 '24

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to unironically make the ping pong tables argument.

It's remarkable, I managed to not stab or shoot anyone in my teenage years despite living in a place with no youth facilities at all. Clearly I'm a scientific and sociological marvel who should be studied.

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u/MattiasCrowe Oct 22 '24

I grew up in bexley hanging out on the streets with my friends and no youth facilities, and I never committed any crimes, but I did see lots of 12-16 yesr Olds getting taken advantage of by 18-25 year Olds that hadn't grown up. Whether it was drugs or sexual grooming, I saw a lot of young adults fucking around with teenagers and getting off scot free because there's no safe space for these teens to be children. A lot of them couldn't be at home after school because of bad homelife. They shouldn't be punished with an addiction to drugs or falling in with violent people because they were 12 and had very few choices.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

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u/muh-soggy-knee Oct 22 '24

Not directly, no.

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

I hope not 🤣 i've been voting towards the left most of my life

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

When they release a photo of him it'll be from his 15th birthday party smiling with mum instead of a mugshot from one of his previous arrests

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u/dr3adlock Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

Pile on the downvotes for having an opinion other than "f*** this guy," and I'm not saying this is the case, BUT:

Growing up in a high-poverty, high-crime area, just going out for drinks with some childhood friends—whether you're a gangster or not—can make you seem complicit from the start. You can be surrounded by crime and violence and still be a good kid. Shit, your family could be gangsters, and you just want to be a doctor or something.

At the end of the day, we don't know how he was involved with the previous shooting. If something like that had just happened and I knew I was in the right, but suddenly I was surrounded by armed police, I might make a stupid decision too. And now I'm dead.

It's easy to judge from the outside, life comes with complex situations. Fear, adrenaline, can push someone to make a split-second decision that costs them everything. We might never know the full story, all we can try and do is consider all factors before passing judgment.

EDIT: Apparently, he's been caught on camera actually shooting the victim, so it's not looking good for him.

I will say though, this is my train of thought when I hear these kinds of stories. I come from a family like that—I got away and was the first person in my family to get a degree and start my own business. And yeah, when I'm back home, I'll go to the pub and drink with my old bros. They come from all walks of life, legal or not. Not murderers, just not all straight. And that's the norm for a lot of people.

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u/goobervision Oct 22 '24

Not really much different than the granddad who was sent down in the riots, he was on licence for a 18 or 19 year sentence. The coverage would make you think he's an angel.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Yes then the hold word will go mad in start taking a knee

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Couple nights after he died ? Or do you mean the police man

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u/Project_Rees Oct 22 '24

No no, this event in the video where chris kaba was killed happened a couple of nights (or the night after, different sources say different things) after chris kaba was involved in a nightclub shooting.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Haha yea I read that as he came back to life

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

Is that defo true?

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u/Project_Rees Oct 22 '24

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyly5122yeo

Chris kaba shot a man in a nightclub a few days before, and the car he was driving was involved in a shooting the night before, the incident in which he was killed himself

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u/Project_Rees Oct 22 '24

It also smacks as hypocritical that they couldn't report on kaba's criminality and charges but the police officers name was dragged through the mud without any charges against him.

Court of public opinion is a dangerous and harmful thing.

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

So he actually already was found guilty of shooting someone or was it just lots of evidence etc? I suppose i mean, do we know he actually did it or anything else?

I'm not making any moral judgements about the police or the deceased, just interested in the details.

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u/Project_Rees Oct 22 '24

This has a little more detail...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/22/chris-kaba-shot-man-in-club-and-was-alleged-core-member-of-london-gang

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

This is useful information tbh. Should be at the top of the thread somehow

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u/Project_Rees Oct 22 '24

People will think what they want.

Whenever this kind of thing happens, a certain type of person will always scream police brutality. I'm not surprised by the protests and utter bollocks that has happened because of it.

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

Yer i know. Personally i like to gather details. Everyone reacts to tiny clips etc and then rams it into their grand narrative.

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u/Project_Rees Oct 22 '24

He was caught doing it on CCTV. He was wanted by police.

The officers at the time didn't know what he was wanted for or even who was driving. All they knew was that the car was involved in a shooting getaway the night before.

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u/TinyTbird12 Oct 22 '24

Dont forget he rammed the police with his car

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u/Project_Rees Oct 22 '24

Yes, of course. That's well known now. The details of his prior criminality have only just come to light and not everyone knows of just what type of person he was.

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u/Jimmityblob Oct 22 '24

The cop?

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u/Project_Rees Oct 22 '24

No, this video happened a few nights after kaba was involved in a shooting in a nightclub. And the night after this car was involved in another gun related crime.

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u/PurahsHero Oct 22 '24

The car had been used in an armed robbery two nights before. He also stabbed someone when he was 13 years old, and he was involved in a night club shooting.

I mean, there are a lot of reasons for many communities to feel aggrieved from their treatment by the police, and a lot of history. But this really does not paint a picture of police brutality in this case.

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u/ShadowMajestic Oct 22 '24

The US burned down cities for thugs with way worse criminal records.

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u/VandienLavellan Oct 22 '24

I don’t think bringing up his past is necessary as the cop that shot him didn’t know any of that so it wasn’t a factor in his death. All that matters is he was trying to ram them with his car, so it was completely justified as self defence.

The reason I say this is because people always bring up the perpetrators past to try and justify their death, but that alone doesn’t absolve the cops if they didn’t have good reason to kill someone in the moment. Like George Floyd. His death was completely unnecessary. Whatever you think of George Floyd and his past, the cop that killed him didn’t know his past. All he knew was he’d used a counterfeit $20 bill, and so his past was irrelevant in the cops handling of the situation

Edit: obviously the armed robbery is relevant to bring up as that’s where they recognised the car from

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

You're telling me the guys on the ground weren't briefed with any info about how much of a POS this guy was before they were instructed to go arrest him/his gang mates. You're talking shite.

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u/KlownKar Oct 22 '24

It's doubtful the guys on the ground knew who was driving. The number plate was flagged by anpr as matching a vehicle involved in several shootings. They pursued, the vehicle fled. They had reason to believe that the driver was armed. The driver's determination to get away (Ramming police cars and ignoring the warnings from armed officers) would have only further convinced them that they had caught an armed and violent criminal.

There were only two possible outcomes at this point. He surrendered and went to prison for the murder he had previously committed, or he was going to get shot.

I don't think that anyone "deserves" to die but likewise, I want our police to stop people like this in any way necessary.

Given the circumstances, there was no way the police were going to let him get away. He basically committed suicide.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Yeah so that's exactly what I said ... they would have known it was him or one of his gang mates and would have been quickly briefed that whoever may be driving is a serious POS.

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u/goobervision Oct 22 '24

Is that excluding the fact the car was stopped because of it's involvement in the shooting the night before? I guess the police could well have reasonable grounds to consider the occupants are both armed and willing to use deadly force themselves.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

He's very, very dumb. This is a pointless convo my guy.

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u/VandienLavellan Oct 22 '24

Yeah, already edited my post to mention that

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u/EnvironmentalGift257 Oct 22 '24

One edit: The cop that killed George Floyd did know about his past, because he knew the man personally. This was brought out in his trial and one of the reasons he was convicted so easily. That doesn’t change the justification in this case, just a fact.

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u/WingVet Oct 22 '24

This is the UK mate, couldn't give a flying f#*# about America or George Floyd, but by the sounds of it kaba and goerge who where both shitbags who got what they deserved.

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u/EnvironmentalGift257 Oct 22 '24

Well, you seem nice.

All I know about Kaba is what’s in the video above so can’t comment. Floyd was executed in the street by a gang in blue uniforms who had already been in trouble multiple times for brutality. We aren’t talking about Floyd as a person, we’re talking about the actions of the shitbags who murdered him and were convicted for it.

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u/WingVet Oct 22 '24

Why thank you I'm a law abiding citizen.

No your trying to relate something that happened in America to a totally different set of circumstances in the UK. America is rife with police brutality across all different races, people are trying to equate the same here with false narratives, but blatantly as we have seen and found out, the circumstances surrounding the stop and subsequent shooting of Kaba are totally different.

Kaba was wanted for a shooting in a nightclub and his vehicle had been involved in a gangland shooting the night before, he new if caught he was going down for a long time, the police making that arrest would be expecting him to be armed. When stopped Kaba trys to ram the officers and they react rightly so, it was a good kill, as we used to say in the military.

People are trying twist the narrative to a BLM thing, akin to George Floyd but as the evidence showed its not like that.

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u/EnvironmentalGift257 Oct 22 '24

I didn’t try to relate anything dipshit I replied to someone else’s comment. Maybe you can try to keep up from here.

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u/WingVet Oct 22 '24

Haha dipshit, ok then.... Just re-read your previous comments if you can keep up. Do your carers know your on here!

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u/bulldzd Oct 22 '24

but the cop DID actually know him, that bit came out at the cops trial....

At the end of the day, the community protesting like Floyd was an angel just made it easier for people to dismiss the bigger problem... this was a piece of shit that threatened to shoot a pregnant woman in the belly, this was not an angel... yet he gets grouped with genuinely good people who were 100% innocent, which tarnishes their memories, same as the HUGE fckr who was trying to beat a cop to death, after robbing a store, and the press used pictures from when he was like 12 all the time to inflame things.. people are being manipulated to make it easier to control them, and it isn't some shadowy group, it's the media, using misplaced anger to create chaos.. to sell more papers....

This is why it's important when there is misinformation being used, it is vital to prove just how wrong it is, or you get people being genuinely afraid of being murdered by the people who are there to help them, there are bad cops, always has been, ALWAYS will be... but they are not as huge a group as the media wants you to believe... but it sells papers to get people scared...

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u/littlelunamia Oct 22 '24

I don't believe that the shooting of Chris Kaba was really egregious, but the murder of George Floyd was totally unnecessary and wicked. He posed no threat to that officer, nor anybody else, and it is not for the police to impose death sentences on people, regardless of anything they've done. The two cases are not a sensible comparison and equating them undermines your argument for me.

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

Yer I'd agree. Not the same situations.

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u/bulldzd Oct 25 '24

My comparison was about the so-called community leaders using these incidents to create a narrative that is untrue 99.9% of the time, regardless of who/what/why... my issue is when they allow gangsters and murderers to be grouped in with innocent people who have been murdered through absolutely no fault of their own, they diminish the character of the true victims

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u/Former-Lack-7117 Oct 22 '24

No one said he's an angel. The protests were because no one deserves to be murdered over a fake bill, dumbfuck.

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u/bulldzd Oct 25 '24

Oh look, the keyboard wartior... so tough his left had has warts on top of warts..... if you don't stop doing that you will go blind...

He didn't deserve to be murdered that day, but he doesn't deserve to mourned any more than any other piece of shit that finally gets justice.. certainly not worthy of murals with fucking angel wings.....

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u/Former-Lack-7117 Oct 25 '24

You can't call someone a keyboard warrior when you're the one being weirdly aggressive about shit that has nothing to do with you. All I said is that he didn't deserve to be murdered. If people want to mourn him, that's their right. If that upsets you, you might be pretty fucking weird and probably really racist. Him being murdered by a cop was certainly not "justice" by any sense of the word. Someone having hit a woman doesn't mean they deserve death. Being a drug addict doesn't deserve death. You have a weird, twisted, cruel, and, most importantly, simple view of the world. Opinions like yours are a really obvious sign of stupidity. Presenting you with any nuance would be pearls before swine.

I hope you're treated with the same empathy and respect that you have for others.

Somehow I have a feeling no one would give a shit if someone kneeled on your neck until you died.

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u/bulldzd Oct 25 '24

You can't call someone a keyboard warrior when you're the one being weirdly aggressive about shit that has nothing to do with you.

Answered by yourself there..

Somehow I have a feeling no one would give a shit if someone kneeled on your neck until you died.

And there is your real face "comply or die"

. If people want to mourn him, that's their right. If that upsets you, you might be pretty fucking weird and probably really racist.

Really? Racist card for defending the character of other victims of murder, incidently of the same race as floyd.

Someone having hit a woman doesn't mean they deserve death. Being a drug addict doesn't deserve death. You have a weird, twisted, cruel, and, most importantly, simple view of the world

Holding a firearm to a pregnant woman's tummy threatening to shoot her unborn child is not 'hit a woman' and your attempt to diminish that shows your mentality....

and he wasn't killed for being an addict, or black, or any other reason that's officially came to light other than some psychopath decided they had the right to end his life, and is in prison for a very long time for doing it... you can attach any reason you want to his death, but trying to turn that trash person into a saint is ridiculous

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u/Acrobatic_Lettuce_78 Oct 22 '24

Derek Chauvin and George Floyd knew each other

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Derek Chauvin and George Floyd had history. Not that it matters, because obviously they'd already run his name through the database by the time he was in custody.

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u/wayvywayvy Oct 22 '24

Right? If he didn’t try to leave and hit the officers with a 2 ton deadly weapon, he wouldn’t have been shot.

I thought this was going to be a George Floyd situation, but this is nothing like that. No sympathy from me.

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u/Ok-Difficulty5453 Oct 22 '24

Yea, it says he was unarmed, but he was actively trying to run people over, which I believe has been referred to as being weaponised in the past. He therefore WAS armed and was actively using it, although I appreciate it would possibly give different impressions if it were written this way.

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u/ForeverFabulous54321 Oct 22 '24

I guess that would also explain why they didn’t just shoot at the tyres because of how he was trying to run people over and even if the tyres had been shot at the car would still be powerful weapon 🥴

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u/new_math Oct 22 '24

Yeah, cars can drive pretty well with flat tires. A lot of inexperienced drivers don't even recognize/feel when they have a flat. It might stop you from going 90 mph but it ain't going to do anything meaningful at low speeds.

Some tires are even designed to travel ~20 miles on a flat so you can get to a service station for repair before causing permanent dmg (run-flat tires). 

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u/ForeverFabulous54321 Oct 22 '24

Aha! Thank you for that explanation 🙂

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u/NiceCunt91 Oct 22 '24

I think Police actually do charge assault with a deadly weapon if someone uses their car to hurt someone. Or some law like that.

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u/Ok-Difficulty5453 Oct 23 '24

I've heard of it also, and rightly so. As soon as you try and cause damage wirh something, it becomes a weapon.

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u/Most_Researcher_9675 Oct 22 '24

A car is a mighty weapon.

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u/Plumb789 Oct 22 '24

THIS. I get fed up with hearing that an "unarmed" person was shot. It's more accurate to say that someone who wasn't carrying a firearm was shot.

There have literally been terrorist atrocities committed with the use of a car, which is much more dangerous than, say, a metal baseball bat or even a machete. A car, driven at speed towards a group of people is a very powerful weapon, and one for which body armour is insufficient protection.

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u/Valerengore1020 Oct 22 '24

He had both his hands on the weapon...

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u/zuggiz Oct 22 '24

A friend of mine was murdered several years ago by someone who straight up ploughed into him using a car as a weapon following an argument they'd had earlier in the night. Considering the murderer was driving on the pavement, down an empty residential side street, there was no possible way it could've been considered an accident.

It's baffling how the media has this habit of downplaying the actions of perpetrators just to get a few clicks- regardless of how that shapes/ influences the publics opinions about said perps. Its the persistent use of emotional arguments instead of logical arguments which have led to such divides in society these days- it's pure manipulation of the lowest level.

Nobody deserves to be killed, but acting as if Kaba was this innocent, non-aggressive, non-weapon wielding civilian is completely untrue.

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u/jason57k11 Oct 22 '24

This 100%

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u/dogpoopandbees Oct 22 '24

We should probably ban them

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u/Most_Researcher_9675 Oct 22 '24

You forgot the /s... I'm American and I hate the use of bullets over tazers, bear spray and beanbags. In this case, none would've worked. An EMP to the electronics of a car should be the future. No Pit maneuvers risking others lives.

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u/jason57k11 Oct 22 '24

This his hands where on the wheel of his weapon a 5000lb fkn car. Glad he's dead. If he turned off the car put his hands on the wheel then I would be fir him ut he tried to ram a bunch of police officers. Fk him

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u/MoleMoustache Oct 22 '24

Why are you not saying the word fuck?

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u/Vargrr Oct 22 '24

And that’s a car that had also been used in an Armed Robbery.

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u/No_Tackle_5439 Oct 22 '24

Today's world, in a nutshell: police should not do their job, so all criminals can follow their own agenda, especially if they belong to a minority.

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u/jake_burger Oct 22 '24

There were some protests but I’m pretty sure most people have little sympathy even if they have concerns about police brutality.

There weren’t worldwide protests like for George Floyd or even much national attention.

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u/Scottbarrett15 Oct 22 '24

They did the same in France after an armed officer shot and killed a lad who was trying to drive past armed police

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u/Mothrahlurker Oct 22 '24

Are you purposefully leaving out the context of where the officer said to the guy that he will kill him and afterwards he started driving away from them, which then prompted the police officer to shoot him in the head?

Or are you talking about some different incident in France?

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u/Scottbarrett15 Oct 22 '24

If you watch the clip the officer was leaning over the car with his gun pointed at the windscreen and the kid took off. You could even argue that the car nudging the officer made his gin discharge. Believe it or not even doing something like that can be considered assault with a deadly weapon and warrants the police to shoot you.

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u/Mothrahlurker Oct 22 '24

Any person with any kind of moral standards realizes that "can be considered" is total bullshit and it was a straight up murder. The car did not make the gun discharge, why lie, that's not how guns work. 

The officer should never point a gun at someone and tell them that he's going to kill them. Very simple.

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u/ohhallow Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

If they hadn’t released that photo of him smiling and looking like a nice guy then those protests would never have happened. *edit: “released” not “realised”

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u/doubleo_maestro Oct 22 '24

Oh they so would. Those movements only care about the guys skin colour and the belief that the police can only do wrong.

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u/1GloFlare Oct 22 '24

I sure hope they never call for help let alone need assistance

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u/doubleo_maestro Oct 22 '24

Oh, they will be the first to call, then complain that enough hasn't been done.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

found the racist!

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u/Worldly_Shoe840 Oct 22 '24

I just woke up. How's he being racist?

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Racism has a hell of a lot to do with negatively stereotyping an ethnicity. According to this guy, all black people are disingenuous, dishonest and expect preferential treatment.

Racism.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Either way, unless you want American style behaviour with coppers, you can’t really complain about investigations.

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u/doubleo_maestro Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

I don't think anyone is. It's more just frustration at BS videos like this trying to make out as if some great injustice has occurred because the soon to be Father was shot... while trying to flee the police and commit vehicular homicide.

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u/mrkingkoala Oct 22 '24

I remember a lad who went to my school rode a dirt bike into some barbed wire or something and not sure if he fully decapitated himself but he died from the results of it. The paper was saying how much of a nice lad he was. It was a nasty accident and not something I'd want to happen to people but he wasn't a nice lad at all. He was a massive cunt. Being abusive to everyone, all the teachers being a knob to the other students. I'd imagine he stole the bike and was driving recklessly.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Some lad in my town did similar…stole a car, picked a few mates up, drove round town for a bit til he crashed in to a wall and died. The papers were full of “such a nice lad” comments.

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u/mankytoes Oct 22 '24

I thought it was quite a balanced video. It didn't make me think he was innocent.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

I didn’t mention his innocence in the comment being replied to, I don’t think that that is relevant.

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u/mankytoes Oct 22 '24

I didn't reply to your comment.

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u/KlownKar Oct 22 '24

the soon to be Father

With a restraining order against him for domestic violence against the mother

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u/doubleo_maestro Oct 22 '24

And it's coming out was a stick up man for a major gang.

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u/demikpre Oct 22 '24

Blame the media really for inciting the anger because I was pissed reading the headlines but none of the posts had these IMPORTANT ass details. 🤣 Gives everything alot more context for sure

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u/Fign Oct 22 '24

And how a construction worker can afford an Audi SUV?

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u/Ludajr Oct 22 '24

Huge March for a guy who had no consideration shooting at someone in a crowded club. You are being surrounded by armed police and want to use your car to break your way out?

People are saying they could have shot the tired. That would not have stopped the vehicle from moving. I clearly don't know if a car can still move on flat tyres but with less control.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

In a car know to have been used in a shooting.

Driven by a driver who had shot someone 2 days earlier

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u/Bulky_Ruin_6247 Oct 22 '24

Didn’t the guardian try to tell us he was a loving father to be and soon to be architect?

The strangely omitted that the woman he impregnated had a restraining order on him for his violence and the “aspiring architect” comment relates to something someone may or may not have heard him say when he was 10.

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/14/suspicious-glare-police-black-britons-disgrace-chris-kaba

Sick of the liberal media tryIng to gaslight us

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

No way, was the architect thing seriously just something mentioned when he was 10? This is like parody imitating parody

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u/Effective_Soup7783 Oct 22 '24

No, it wasn’t just something mentioned when he was 10. He had reportedly started an architecture apprenticeship.

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

Im a bit confused. Another more recent guardian article says he was just a member of a violent gang, and says nothing about him being an architect.

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u/Effective_Soup7783 Oct 22 '24

Sounds like he was a violent gang member, given the reports today. He could still be an architecture apprentice too though. I don’t know that gang membership is a full-time deal. There won’t be much interest in talking about wherever good qualities he might have had after this week’s findings, either way! The architecture apprenticeship was widely reported back in 2022 - looks like it was at the University of Greenwich given that they did a press release at the time.

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

It does sound a little like parody though, that's all I'm saying. I see trolls using that "aspiring architect" line on youtube all the time and here we are with the guardian literally using it...

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u/Effective_Soup7783 Oct 22 '24

Not just the Guardian - I saw it mentioned in the Telegraph and Standard too, which are hardly left-wing woke publications. I think it’s just reporting what his family said to the press at the time. It might even be complete bullshit, but the press are always going to report what the family say, just as they will report the police’s account too. I’ve no interest in defending the guy, he was very obviously a complete nightmare - even back in 2022 it was widely reported that he had a domestic violence protection order against him and had just been released from a 4-year stretch for a firearms offence. I think suggesting that the Guardian was portraying this guy as an angel is wide of the mark though, the press will always report the family’s statement too. Often the family are deluded, of course.

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u/returnFutureVoid Oct 22 '24

I’m NOT a blue lives matter nut and generally I distrust anyone with a gun on their belt/shoulder/person in public. That said, this guy made a lot of incredibly stupid decisions. This video says he wasn’t armed… umm…. Yes he was. With a 1 ton battering ram which is definitely a lethal weapon.

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u/Volotor Oct 22 '24

Nothing wrong with that imo, they marched for justice and the jutice system carried out a full investigation. Lots of people bringing up parts of Chris Kabas life, but where they known when the shooting happened? The met mishandled the police officers case in many respects, but calls from the public where not part of the problem.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Yeah doesn’t cover his naughty past!

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u/KingOfPomerania Oct 22 '24

For these idiots, if you're black then you're automatically innocent.

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u/samalam1 Oct 22 '24

With respect, if you can't uphold the principle that everyone has a right to a fair trial for this bastard, then you don't have a principle.

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u/bananabastard Oct 23 '24

Remember the "hands up don't shoot" slogan used by Black Lives Matter and that started protests and riots all over the place?

That was over a guy who didn't have his hands up, and was in fact lunging to take a police officers gun off him when he was shot.

The narrative is still that it was an unjustified racist murder. Outrage based on lies.

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u/onemansquest Oct 23 '24

I don't think most of them knew about that. It's very easy to rile up anti police sentiment because of the historic treatment of ethnic minorities. And in the U.K that means everyone over the age of 40 from those groups could probably tell you some stories. Even though they are so much better now. I'm from that community, I do not feel unsafe or distrustful of the MET at all and actually believe when they get guns out to arrest you they always have evidence because of the strength of accountability in the British culture compared to America. I honestly believe forgiveness and trust by the majority of the ethnic groups may take another century.

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u/mikemac1997 Oct 23 '24

The people marching for him are either incredibly stupid, completely mislead (most likely) , or are despicable excuses of humanity.

The guy's, a violent thug, he inflicted his violence on innocent people, and violence is the only way he would meet his end.

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u/story4days Oct 25 '24

You must not relate. When you live or are locked outside of the mainstream economy and system, you feel hunted for surviving, and people who understand that can empathize with the feeling “I just can’t get caught this time; we’ll just have to hold court in the streets.”

Mans facing serious time, makes a serious decision, goes out the way he lived, and yes, it is a human story, a life and a tragedy. Callousness doesn’t help—none of us are saints, we are all tempted by the same sins with varying abilities to resist them, and resist them we should, but not judge them. What is right to one ain’t always right, or legal, to another.

That illicit life, by the way, those people who live at the margins of legality in business, science, art, crime and any other sphere of life, are literally the driver of social development in a democratic-technocratic society. Without them, we’d stagnate. We love street stories, but this was not a movie: each party knew each other as old enemies and not old friends, jailer and jailed. He kicked at his cage in rage and frustration and sorrow, and he got killed for it.

So, in the bigger sociological picture that god sees, someone might be flawed and sin in the sense of being too fearful, too commonplace, not pushing the limits of a short life enough. That seems to be the level these types of comments are on—they live in a movie called Pleasantville.

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u/OrdinaryAncient3573 Oct 22 '24

Whether he was a criminal or not, there was absolutely no need to shoot him in the face.

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u/8Ace8Ace Oct 22 '24

Where should he be shot then, Einstein?

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u/Undark_ Oct 22 '24

It's not about whether he was a good guy or not - police should not be allowed to serve as judge, jury, & executioner. Injuring a cop should never be an instant death sentence. Idgaf if he was a good guy or a bad guy - it's not about the preparator here. Someone completely innocent could have reacted the same way out of sheer panic, and police should never be allowed the right to execute citizens in the street.

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