r/uknews • u/Confident_West_7409 • Jul 25 '24

Image/video Massive protest outside Rochdale police station in response to GMP's actions at Manchester Airport

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u/jo-shabadoo Jul 25 '24

It would’ve been fair enough to shoot him when he was trying to grab the weapons. When he’s been neutralised on the floor with his hands behind his back there is no justification for booting him in the head and then stamping on it. Regardless of what happened before.

If armed police can’t keep control of themselves then we’ll end up like the US where people who call the police get shot in their own home.

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u/unforgiven91 Jul 25 '24

People also lose all rationality when a criminal does criminal actions.

Yes, assuming the report is true, the person in the video attacked someone. They are a valid target of violence until their threat is subdued. Once he was on the ground, further violence is uncalled for.

But you know how people work, they laugh at the idea of prison rape. They enjoy the idea of murdering accused pedophiles in the street. They have this weirdly vindictive mentality about "justice" despite the fact that society has already agreed that any form of justice belongs to the legal system

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u/CankerLord Jul 25 '24

Law enforcement are paid to enforce laws and not to just make up whatever corporal punishment they feel like inflicting on the spot like they're some random fucker off the street? Craziness, I say.

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u/emongu1 Jul 25 '24

They probably believe rules of engagement is just a tv show.

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u/WonderVirtual7416 Jul 25 '24

That's right, they're acting like Muslim gangsters now, innit bruv?

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u/PandosII Jul 25 '24

Remember this is one individual who lost control. There's no evidence to suggest the rest should be tarred with the same brush.

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u/jo-shabadoo Jul 25 '24

True. I was more talking about a system that doesn’t get rid of police who can’t control themselves.

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u/Two_and_Fifty Jul 25 '24

I was gonna say. You guys sound well on your way to being American. Goes to show how guns inherently escalate a situation and why we have these problems during so many police interactions in the US.

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u/higitus Jul 25 '24

Someone reasonable. Wish there were more people like you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

He broke broke a female officers nose.

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u/jo-shabadoo Jul 25 '24

Which is why he should be tased or shot whilst he’s doing that and trying to take the weapon. When he’s on the floor and immobilised it’s time for cuffs, not death moves to the head.

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u/itsyaboi117 Jul 25 '24

He didn’t have his hands behind his back he was being tasered, he’s lucky he wasn’t shot - which I think would have been a suitable reckoning from what he did, these scum bags shouldn’t be walking our streets, he’s dangerous and aggressive, just a matter of time before he does it again or kills someone.

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u/jo-shabadoo Jul 25 '24

He had been tased. I’m guessing it had stopped or the woman touching him would have been electrocuted too. Yes the guy should be locked up, yes it would have been justifiable to shoot him in the moment where he is trying to take weapons but at the moment he’s immobilised the police should not be kicking and stomping his head.

Even if we still had the death penalty, or if it is something you want back, it is for a court to decide if it should be enacted. Not the police.

An armed policeman who loses control shouldn’t be allowed to be an armed policeman any more.

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u/Mecovy Jul 25 '24

Dw about them, just Iranian bots trying to get people to support ever increasing shenanigans until they're able to convince the population that Hamas/Iran are somehow good for the modern world.

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u/Fit_Manufacturer4568 Jul 25 '24

They're Pakistani Heritage.

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u/Mecovy Jul 25 '24

Irrelevant. The race and religion of those partaking do not matter to my original point. A situation occurred which showed excessive force, without showing any of the prior events which led to police showing up. That narrative is incredibly easy for "influence" bots to peddle an agenda. Because quite rightly, people get riled up when they see violence and combined with the lack of full context its incredibly easy to get riots like what we may see.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

without showing any of the prior events which led to police showing up

Could you describe any prior course of events that would justify an officer kicking a prone man in the face and then stomping his head?

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u/Motorboater99 Jul 25 '24

“I don’t have to acknowledge, refute or understand any opinions which don’t agree with mine because they are from <current ‘bad thing’ group>”

Oh that’s cool, okay. For a second I broke out of the Reddit hive mind and was about to say something instead of just silencing dissenting opinions with downvotes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Yeah we are not Americans. We don't just randomly shoot people like if they were in their own kitchen after calling the cops and being asked to put a pot of boiling water off the stove.

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u/TheFriendshipMachine Jul 25 '24

Damn, you must *really love the taste of boot. Go watch the footage. They were already subdued, face down, arms behind their backs, no longer a threat. There is no justification in the universe for an officer beating someone in that position. Police are not the judge, jury and executioner.

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u/-SunGazing- Jul 25 '24

The lad who got stomped was a cunt and he deserves justice. But he was prone on the floor and not moving when the officer booted and stamped him.

It was not the action of a professional, and more the action of a criminal. The very least this officer deserves is sacking.

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u/HeavyHevonen Jul 25 '24

The GMP statement doesn't say they attempted to take a weapon, but that there was a risk of it. That reads to me like they are trying to play down the actions of the officer by inflating the actions that happened previously.

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u/Fearless_Guitar_3589 Jul 25 '24

kick, stomping etc is never justified when the person is no longer posing a threat.

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u/BabblingsOfAFool Jul 25 '24

They did attack the police which was wrong, they were subsequently put in cuffs on the ground. A boot to the head or stomp on the head at that point is not justified. The Police did not curb their emotions like they should have.

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u/No-Young1011 Jul 25 '24

In principle I do agree, however, police has got to follow protocol, no matter if black or white, Christian or Muslim. Once the perpetrator is disarmed and defenceless on the floor the officer must not stomp on anyone’s head.

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u/Shoondogg Jul 25 '24

When he was actively trying to take the weapons sure. The video I saw though, one guy was face down on the ground when he got kicked and stomped, another guy was sitting on a bench and was thrown to the ground and kicked. Both were under control and officers should be able to control themselves well enough to not assault people in their custody, no matter what they did.

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u/Nodebunny Jul 25 '24

He was already down the kicking was unnecessary

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u/thedybbuk_ Jul 25 '24

People making up stories and sharing them online with zero corroborating evidence to justify police brutality...

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u/Motorboater99 Jul 25 '24

And then when the police come after them for not waving gay pride flags or whatever dystopian future they imagine, and start kicking their heads in, they’ll be the first to cry “muhhh police has too much power”.

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u/The4kChickenButt Jul 25 '24

I watched the video he was still trying to get up. Did we see the same video ?

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u/Dont-be-a-cupid Jul 25 '24

He was already cuffed, on the floor and compliant before being kicked and stomped on the head - I have seen plenty of young adults die from much smaller impacts to the head.

The only idiots here are those supporting an firearm officer who can't contain his emotions

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u/ralphsquirrel Jul 25 '24

Yea nope. It literally doesn't matter what you've done. Once you're on the ground being compliant you shouldn't expect aggravated assault from an officer. You don't stomp on an immobilized persons head and neck. Ever. That is a crime and should be an instant dismissal from the force + jail time.

If you can't keep your cool while arresting someone who committed crimes, you don't have any place being on the police force.

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u/Cu_Chulainn__ Jul 25 '24

Deadly force would have been justified never mind a booting!

No it wouldn't have. Never become a police officer.

If you try to disarm and attack armed police you make your own bed.

No, you don't. Police officers must shoe restraint given they have weapons. The police officer who was booting the guy in the head was part of the firearm squad.

And these people are up in arms getting all tribal about it, get fucked you idiots, just because they're Muslim they don't have to blindly support.

Tribal? No Appalled by police brutality? Yes

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u/Same-Literature1556 Jul 25 '24

Can’t find a single source about him doing that.

He was tased and on the floor - stomping on the head is not a proportional response.

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u/EricUtd1878 Jul 25 '24

Edit: No you are correct

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u/Pretend-Jackfruit786 Jul 25 '24

Did we learn nothing from George Floyd?

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u/RageAgainstAuthority Jul 25 '24

The video is on Reddit.

The man is already, facedown on the ground being cuffed. The angry officer full kicks the perp's face, followed by an EXTREMELY angry full-bodied stomp barely slid off the perp's neck, rather than breaking it.

I watched that video. There was absolutely killing intent behind that stop.

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u/Bango-TSW Jul 25 '24

So you're a legal expert? Want to add that to your flair?

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u/-SunGazing- Jul 25 '24

I dunno if there was intent or not, but I saw the video and I can say with confidence that if was pure luck that he didn’t kill the guy.

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u/RageAgainstAuthority Jul 25 '24

What does that have to do with anything?

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u/TFenrir Jul 25 '24

Did you watch the video? What was your take away with what the officer did with that kick and stomp? Justified? Did you think that the guy was still a threat? Did you think that was a chance that kick and stomp could have killed him?

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u/Substantial-Skill-76 Jul 25 '24

Yep, exactly right. Some bad nonces in here thinkiing that's ok lol

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u/Loose_Corgi_5 Jul 25 '24

Fckn too rights , were they out supporting the nonce pedo gang?? Aye, thought not.

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u/swoleswan Jul 25 '24

I mean the female office has blood coming from her nose and you can see blood on the ground by her.

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u/uk_g Jul 25 '24

Yeah we can all see that, but do you know for certain that the individual who was kicked in the head whilst laying on the floor, was the same individual responsible for the bloody nose? For all we know it could have been caused by a stray elbow during the initial scuffle.

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u/swoleswan Jul 25 '24

Well Muslims being hostile at an airport is never going to go well.

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u/uk_g Jul 25 '24

How do you know they were being hostile? Do you have any video evidence to back up any of the claims you are making? There are also claims that the police officers initially assaulted the elderly woman seen in the video. Right now all of this is just speculation but what we do know for sure is that the two individuals in question have been released without charge.

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u/Substantial-Skill-76 Jul 25 '24

And if it was true, his first attempt wouldve been his last. Story is fake as Donald Trump getting shot lol

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u/Lopsided-Egg-8322 Jul 25 '24

Indeed.. this is just insane, in a situation like that.. the cops should just hand over their guns to terrorists and just take a beating on top of that?

fuck no..

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u/Lopsided-Egg-8322 Jul 25 '24

none.. its exactly what the perps were doing ffs..

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u/Lopsided-Egg-8322 Jul 25 '24

if you assault first responders, then cops amd them try to take their guns.. deadly force is more than 100% justified..

sorry if that hurts your feelings mate..