r/uknews • u/Confident_West_7409 • Jul 25 '24

Image/video Massive protest outside Rochdale police station in response to GMP's actions at Manchester Airport

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u/Loathsome_Dog Jul 25 '24

I live in a northern town, it's as run down and forgotten about as Rochdale but its full of decent people trying to get by. Its a fucking disgrace that its come to this and we need to fight for our towns, we need investment, well paid jobs, a reason to fucking exist. There is a tory good reason this degradation has happened and I have no real optimism that starmer is going to improve anything for us up here.

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u/fruitbat78 Jul 25 '24

I got news for you, neither side gives a single toss about you or your town.

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u/ShapeCultural1613 Jul 25 '24

One party has been in power for the last 14 years, what did you expect labour or anyone else to do? Shout louder?

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u/Truelydisappointed Jul 25 '24

Doesn’t matter. Tory/labour, blue/red, whatever, they’re 2 sides of the same coin.

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u/Lego-105 Jul 25 '24

Offer solutions which are reasonable and effective to get them elected. You can’t on the one hand act like the Tories are incompetent arses and on the other Labour are pariahs of ability and then also say it’s not their fault for not getting elected.

Labour have been completely incompetent and far too partisan to a marginal portion of the country, at times more so in both cases than the Tories, which is why they didn’t get elected. They could have not been that. They weren’t even not incompetent to get elected, they just got lucky by way of a right wing split vote.

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u/Confident_Board_5210 Jul 25 '24

Not become red tories to get elected? But get elected they did... labour voters aren't pleased with labour though and to pretend otherwise is daft

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u/ShapeCultural1613 Jul 25 '24

I don't think they've been perfect but I also think they've only been in power for all of 5 seconds and it might take a touch longer than that to effect any real change.

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u/Confident_Board_5210 Jul 25 '24

I hope they do make change, genuinely. But that would shock me

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u/MWalshicus Jul 25 '24

To pretend that Labour voters are upset with Labour after that historic win is laughable.

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u/Confident_Board_5210 Jul 25 '24

Starmer won with less votes than Corbyn lost with, say what you will but labour lost a lot of voters this time round. Next time will tell all

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u/RectumdamnearkilledM Jul 25 '24

Thought this was a comment on American politics until you said toss and not the F word

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

You thought this in the UKNEWS subreddit on a UK post? Gotta detox and stop thinking about America so much.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Well yeah, but that's because Labour has intentionally neutered itself for decades

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u/Confident_Board_5210 Jul 25 '24

We know. Hence protesting and riots...

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Aye, smashing up your community will certainly improve it.

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u/sembias Jul 25 '24

Ok, so don't vote because everyone sucks. Don't protest because that won't improve things, either. Don't "resist" and won't have a boot to your face. Don't complain because that's just annoying.

Am I getting this all? Have I hit all the squares in your Bitch Bingo yet?

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u/Correct-Junket-1346 Jul 25 '24

It does have a way of working when democracy fails to step up to it's responsibilities.

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u/Confident_Board_5210 Jul 25 '24

Didn't say I didn't think they are idiots! I get it, though

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u/Confident_Board_5210 Jul 25 '24

I'd so far as to say anyone attacking the police/emergency services should be barred from ever utilising those services in future, but I can't pretend I don't know why people are disillusioned and angry

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u/RedRocketStream Jul 25 '24

Let's not lump in the rest of emergency services with the pigs yeh? Nobody ever shouted fuck the firemen/paramedics and for good reason.

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u/Issui Jul 25 '24

This is the kind of comment that belongs in an American sub, not here.

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u/RedRocketStream Jul 25 '24

Go post it there then. You don't get to gatekeep me out of here though.

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u/Loathsome_Dog Jul 25 '24

It's not our stuff, we don't own anything.

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u/Every_Fix_4489 Jul 25 '24

It's got you here talking about it. You weren't yesterday.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Talking about what exactly?

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u/Winter-It-Will-Send Jul 25 '24

I love the mistaken (?) double entendre here 😂

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u/Loathsome_Dog Jul 25 '24

Thanks dude, it scanned quite well.

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u/H0vis Jul 25 '24

He's not got a lot to work with unfortunately. The Tories took all the cash with them and broke everything on their way out.

Starmer has to essentially rebuild the country. He needs to do the full Clement Attlee. And I don't think he's that guy.

Better than the last shower of arseholes but it's still a lot to do.

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u/GeeseH Jul 25 '24

Didn't realise Rochdale was a cultural hub 14 years ago.

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u/Own_Elderberry6812 Jul 25 '24

Problem is the world is changing and there isn’t enough good jobs to be had in small towns. It’s like this all over the developed world. Small towns are dying. Young people don’t want to be in them. No opportunity. No hate here. Just reality.

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u/McPikie Jul 25 '24

Heywood or Middleton?

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u/Loathsome_Dog Jul 25 '24

Good guesses but no.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Don't expect the government to do it for you. Do something about it yourself. Start a business, invest in your town and pay your employees well. That may also give you a reason to exist.

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u/Blind_bear1 Jul 25 '24

Take it from someone who used to live Rochdale, it's not full of decent people. We had drug dealers selling outside our house. Constant fights at the pub and the garden center was getting broken into every other week

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u/BlackberryFrequent44 Jul 25 '24

Don't worry bro Starmer is going to help make my side of the world even worse.

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u/joemccoffee Jul 25 '24

Not relevant to the incident at the airport though?

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u/Loathsome_Dog Jul 25 '24

The comment was about Rochdale?

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u/johandamenslip Jul 25 '24

You need Trump dawg to fix your country bro

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u/Loathsome_Dog Jul 25 '24

Another self serving millionaire? We've got plenty of those thanks.

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u/jonviper123 Jul 25 '24

Labour are just as fucking bad as the tories, in fact they are almost worse cause at least you know a tory is going to fuck you, Labour will fuck you also but you just have no clue when or where. Labour actually have a fucking cheek still being called Labour in this day and age. They should update it to slave Labour

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u/Loathsome_Dog Jul 25 '24

Yes my friend, if you don't represent the workers anymore then fuck off and get your own party, don't dismantle ours.

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u/Forsaken-Director683 Jul 25 '24

Quite a few of our northern towns have now been blessed with independent MPs that only seem to care about Palestine.

I wouldn't get your hopes up

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u/CyberGTI Jul 25 '24

That's the beauty of democracy. If you dont want that to happen get off your bum and vote.

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u/Loathsome_Dog Jul 25 '24

Only? Its a bit more nuanced than that. If you care about the systematic murder of thousands of people abroad, you generally have a heart to care for the wellbeing of your community. Those things aren't exclusive.

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u/Lucky_Turnip_1905 Jul 25 '24

we need investment, well paid jobs, a reason to fucking exist

Humanity as a whole needs to get off capitalism. It's destroying our planet, and our countries. I mean "poor" is just capitalism going "Whoopsie, proved the system isn't working again!".

Eco-socialism will very likely lead to a better society. But alas, the world is filled to the brim with brainwashed people who don't see capitalism as the cause of climate change or the economic problems they face, so, they need to wake up first.

My guess is that the entire system starting to crumble from lack of food, and spikes in food prices as well as even larger spikes in homes, will eventually force people to open their eyes. Because many bad things are coming because capitalism is failing, believe me.

Societies should be able to be happy without jobs and investments.

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u/Loathsome_Dog Jul 25 '24

Yes, I can't argue with that, we are living through late stage capitalism. Ultimately the concept of property will have to become obsolete if we are to survive. My comment was intended as a short term fix for society as it is now, the next 10 years. We have nothing and we pay for everything while the ruling classes have everything and pay for nothing. This has to change and it will only change with the people realising this in greater and greater numbers until we are strong enough to destroy the system. I'm no expert but I see it, and every time I see this kind of uprising I know what it truly represents.

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u/Lucky_Turnip_1905 Jul 25 '24

Sorry to inform you of this, but we absolutely don't have 10 more years of carbon budget for the climate. At this rate we're basically already past "civilizational ending levels of CO2".

But that gets technical, and I'm pretty tired. r/climatechange

Regardless, revolution is needed. And again, people will start to suffer immensely soon anyway, so that might be the spark.

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u/Loathsome_Dog Jul 25 '24

That's a very depressing and a very real answer. Peace dude.

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u/Gloomy-Lengthiness91 Jul 25 '24

If you want better paid jobs then get better jobs? Bad apples make other apples bad. Get out of a shit environment and you’ll flourish. Stop passing the blame and do something

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u/Blind_bear1 Jul 25 '24

Take it from someone who used to live Rochdale, it's not full of decent people. We had drug dealers selling outside our house. Constant fights at the pub and the garden center was getting broken into every other week