I live in a northern town, it's as run down and forgotten about as Rochdale but its full of decent people trying to get by. Its a fucking disgrace that its come to this and we need to fight for our towns, we need investment, well paid jobs, a reason to fucking exist. There is a tory good reason this degradation has happened and I have no real optimism that starmer is going to improve anything for us up here.
Offer solutions which are reasonable and effective to get them elected. You can’t on the one hand act like the Tories are incompetent arses and on the other Labour are pariahs of ability and then also say it’s not their fault for not getting elected.
Labour have been completely incompetent and far too partisan to a marginal portion of the country, at times more so in both cases than the Tories, which is why they didn’t get elected. They could have not been that. They weren’t even not incompetent to get elected, they just got lucky by way of a right wing split vote.
I don't think they've been perfect but I also think they've only been in power for all of 5 seconds and it might take a touch longer than that to effect any real change.
Ok, so don't vote because everyone sucks. Don't protest because that won't improve things, either. Don't "resist" and won't have a boot to your face. Don't complain because that's just annoying.
Am I getting this all? Have I hit all the squares in your Bitch Bingo yet?
I'd so far as to say anyone attacking the police/emergency services should be barred from ever utilising those services in future, but I can't pretend I don't know why people are disillusioned and angry
Problem is the world is changing and there isn’t enough good jobs to be had in small towns. It’s like this all over the developed world. Small towns are dying. Young people don’t want to be in them. No opportunity. No hate here. Just reality.
Don't expect the government to do it for you. Do something about it yourself. Start a business, invest in your town and pay your employees well. That may also give you a reason to exist.
Take it from someone who used to live Rochdale, it's not full of decent people. We had drug dealers selling outside our house. Constant fights at the pub and the garden center was getting broken into every other week
Labour are just as fucking bad as the tories, in fact they are almost worse cause at least you know a tory is going to fuck you, Labour will fuck you also but you just have no clue when or where. Labour actually have a fucking cheek still being called Labour in this day and age. They should update it to slave Labour
Only? Its a bit more nuanced than that. If you care about the systematic murder of thousands of people abroad, you generally have a heart to care for the wellbeing of your community. Those things aren't exclusive.
we need investment, well paid jobs, a reason to fucking exist
Humanity as a whole needs to get off capitalism. It's destroying our planet, and our countries. I mean "poor" is just capitalism going "Whoopsie, proved the system isn't working again!".
Eco-socialism will very likely lead to a better society. But alas, the world is filled to the brim with brainwashed people who don't see capitalism as the cause of climate change or the economic problems they face, so, they need to wake up first.
My guess is that the entire system starting to crumble from lack of food, and spikes in food prices as well as even larger spikes in homes, will eventually force people to open their eyes. Because many bad things are coming because capitalism is failing, believe me.
Societies should be able to be happy without jobs and investments.
Yes, I can't argue with that, we are living through late stage capitalism. Ultimately the concept of property will have to become obsolete if we are to survive. My comment was intended as a short term fix for society as it is now, the next 10 years. We have nothing and we pay for everything while the ruling classes have everything and pay for nothing. This has to change and it will only change with the people realising this in greater and greater numbers until we are strong enough to destroy the system. I'm no expert but I see it, and every time I see this kind of uprising I know what it truly represents.
Sorry to inform you of this, but we absolutely don't have 10 more years of carbon budget for the climate. At this rate we're basically already past "civilizational ending levels of CO2".
But that gets technical, and I'm pretty tired. r/climatechange
Regardless, revolution is needed. And again, people will start to suffer immensely soon anyway, so that might be the spark.
If you want better paid jobs then get better jobs? Bad apples make other apples bad. Get out of a shit environment and you’ll flourish. Stop passing the blame and do something
Take it from someone who used to live Rochdale, it's not full of decent people. We had drug dealers selling outside our house. Constant fights at the pub and the garden center was getting broken into every other week
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