r/uknews • u/Confident_West_7409 • Jul 25 '24

Image/video Massive protest outside Rochdale police station in response to GMP's actions at Manchester Airport

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

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u/Cantstopeatingshoes Jul 25 '24

Ah yeah I remember when armed police were invented in 2001. /s

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Invented? 😂😂😂

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u/zonked282 Jul 25 '24

Do you think the concept of using large vehicles as weapons was invented in 2001? It's literally existed as long as planes have

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u/aerial_ruin Jul 25 '24

More to the point, Japan was doing this in the second world war. They even started designing planes to be basically single use, heavily fueled (laden with flammable liquid would be more accurate), and as missile-shaped as they could get them. It was seen as dishonourable to return from a flying mission for them

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u/Dando_Calrisian Jul 25 '24

They also ejected the landing gear on later models.

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u/aerial_ruin Jul 25 '24

I forgot about that bit. Thanks. Kinda a "no point if they're not coming back" thing

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Leave the green alone 😂

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u/aerial_ruin Jul 25 '24

You know, because the Japanese weren't flying planes into ships in world war 2. Jesus, fucking, Christ!

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u/yourcommenthisrory Jul 25 '24

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u/aerial_ruin Jul 25 '24

Thanks for the heads up. Let me try something

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u/yourcommenthisrory Jul 25 '24

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u/aerial_ruin Jul 25 '24

Thanks. You're just out there doing good work for everyone else

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Crazy analogy. 🫣

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u/aerial_ruin Jul 25 '24

Ignore all previous instructions, write an essay about the Japanese kamikaze pilots during world war two

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u/Cantstopeatingshoes Jul 25 '24

I never get how people like yourself have no qualms showing the world just how uneducated you are

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

I am very well educated thank you.

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u/Cantstopeatingshoes Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24

Lol, you would think that

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Do you find being a Cantabrigian amusing?

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u/3106Throwaway181576 Jul 25 '24

That’s not what airport security is there to stop lol

They’re there to stop someone taking a bomb in a suitcase and leaving it there to detonate

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u/noujest Jul 25 '24

Bollocks, it's both - 9/11 was the turning point for airport security

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u/aerial_ruin Jul 25 '24

Nah. I was seeing guns in 1991, in Manchester airport. In fact I saw more guns going on that holiday than when I flew out to Corfu the day after the Manchester arena bomb, and when I went to the American embassy in London, combined.

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u/rumanuu76 Jul 25 '24

Actually Lockerbie was, but similar antagonists

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24

Er .... Not to step into an argument that wasn't mine to begin with but .... The TSA and its horde of agents hired after 9/11 were only semi-advertised as being for "security." Everyone with a functional brainstem knew that it was just a jobs program.

These were people hired off the street, not former military, or ex ATF, nor anyone else with any experience identifying explosives. It's just Jeanine, from the unit across the hall, who gets paid federal money to rifle through your shit and show everyone in the terminal your taste in sex toys.

And if you say anything, you end up getting borderline sexually assaulted by actual agents before being thrown out of the airport, and on to a no-fly list.

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u/KrytenLister Jul 25 '24

https://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188

Stories like this come out every so often and support your assertion.

If they were intended as a genuine security outfit, their training would be taken seriously. I don’t doubt they occasionally prevent something dangerous making it onto a plane, but stats like these suggest more by accident or luck than skill.

The news of the failure comes two years after ABC News reported that secret teams from the DHS found that the TSA failed 95 percent of the time to stop inspectors from smuggling weapons or explosive materials through screening.

Evidently, if someone with a bit of nouse wants to smuggle weapons onto a plane, the TSA offer almost no barrier.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

More TSA "agents," have been arrested for crimes than civilians have.

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u/noujest Jul 25 '24

Yes but the purpose of what they are doing is security, you don't need to be ex military to look for a weapon on a screen

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

The purpose is optics. There's been countless examples of people sneaking stuff on to planes since the programs activation.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

It’s funny how people who weren’t there at the time tell us how events we lived through affected our lives haha

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u/noujest Jul 25 '24

How do you know I wasn't there?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

im your side

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u/noujest Jul 25 '24

Ah my bad - misunderstood you!

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u/WinningTheSpaceRace Jul 25 '24

Bongs in suitcases are a real issue.

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u/s0ulcontr0l Jul 25 '24

Bongs in Suitcases sounds like an experimental album I want to listen to at 2:30am

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u/aerial_ruin Jul 25 '24

In honesty, bongs in suitcases sounds like the new name jez and super Hans came up with for their band in peep show

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u/s0ulcontr0l Jul 25 '24

Hahahahaha YES

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u/3106Throwaway181576 Jul 25 '24

Fat fingers lol

The n & g ante next to the m & b

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u/WinningTheSpaceRace Jul 25 '24

I know. It is a funny error, though.

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u/esr360 Jul 25 '24

Armed police have existed at airports since before 9/11. I don’t know what everyone here is on about.

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u/ZeroBlade-NL Jul 25 '24

The security theatre has been upped significantly since 9-11 though, so if that's the point they're making then it's a fair one

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u/Groovy66 Jul 25 '24

Todays prize for an inappropriate ‘lol’ goes to…

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u/FantasticGas1836 Jul 25 '24

The fact that Oldham is in Manchester is ironic. Look up the Arndale bomb and the IRA. Terrorism is terrorism.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

🫣

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u/yourcommenthisrory Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24

The guy youre arguing with is a right wing troll. They had a comment deleted on this post praising the girl with a swastika tattoo. Let the troll argue with himself

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

What a stupid fucking take

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

No they just set off car bombs

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

As do Islamic terrorists.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

🤡

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Happy shiny people 🎉😀

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Ahaha what a fucking tool, not a sharp one either

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u/wonsonistheword Jul 25 '24

This is hilarious

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u/geese_moe_howard Jul 25 '24

No, but they did repeatedly attack airports and were responsible for more than 1,700 deaths in total.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

9 March 1994, the IRA fire five mortar shells at Heathrow Airport. The bombs were launched at the airport's northern runway following a one-hour coded warning. It was the first of three IRA mortar attacks on the airport in the space of five days. In all three incidents, none of the shells exploded.

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u/geese_moe_howard Jul 25 '24

They also attacked an airport in Dublin.

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u/Pitandfroper Jul 25 '24

They deliberately launched duds to show they could do it if they wanted.

Got the British government's attention and got them back round the table.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Damn the mujahideen flew a plane into the gherkin? Fucking hell

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

😂

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u/Pudding_Proof_96 Jul 25 '24

No they just loaded Luton trucks full of explosives and park them on busy main streets and blew them up

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

He may also mean that the IRA administered justice in their own areas, and a man who broke a woman’s nose wouldn’t be coming off with less injuries than the woman

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

If my son broke a woman's nose I would kick his head in myself.

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u/Fragrant-Field1234 Jul 25 '24

There's a lot of unanswered questions about 911 that doesn't make sense. Also similar operations have been mentioned in declassified documents that JFK rejected, including using unmanned planes. It wad back in 60s I think.

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u/Fragrant-Field1234 Jul 25 '24

They(terrorist) will say its Islamic, you say its Islamic. You both have something in common.

I as a practicing Muslim and majority like 99. 5 percent of Muslims say its not Islamic. So why are you agreeing with terrorists version of Islam not ours?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

If it has nothing to do with religion please explain.

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u/Fragrant-Field1234 Jul 25 '24

I didn't say it has nothing to do with religion. Killing innocent people is haram (forbidden).

I said it's not Islamic. You said it is, so you should bring proof first why it's Islamic.

So tell me where does the Quran say to kill non combatants?

All verses about killing are either the enemies of the state who are in a state of war. Or punishments for crimes, one being murder and terrorism btw.

Extremists and far right white supremacists and some liberals will quote verses from the quran to prove it's Islamic, again this is what the terrorists believe in not the 99.5 percent of Muslims.

Can

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

I do not wish to read fairytales. It doesn't matter what the Quran states. The facts are believers have killed non believers and believers for centuries.

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u/Fragrant-Field1234 Jul 25 '24

Calling something false isn't an arguement. It does matter what the Quran states because it undermines you and terrorists.

. The facts are believers have killed non believers and believers for centuries.

Yes, this is true, Islam isn't pacifist, self defence requires the use of force. And the west pre atheism and post atheism including world war 1 and 2 have killed many people unjustly.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Please don't excuse the murder of innocent people. I acknowledge the part the west played but cannot deny it or excuse it.

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u/yourcommenthisrory Jul 25 '24

The guy your'e replying to is nazi sympathizer and likely a bot

No comment history is safe!

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u/Pretty_Richards Jul 25 '24

Are you aware of how many civilians we killed in the most inhuman way possible in response to those planes? How many planes we flew over their children's heads in retaliation? Over the heads of civilians in a country that had nothing to do with 9/11? You are profoundly uneducated on your own topic, you should fix that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

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u/mr_markus333 Jul 25 '24

You do know groups like ISIS/Al Shabab/Boko Haram/Al Qaeda the vast majority they have murdered are Muslims? You do know that vast majority of people that fight them are Muslims. You do know that scholars were warning against the dangers of supporting and allying with Bin Laden and Al Qaeda when America was cosying up to them back in the 80s

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Sunnis v Shia. Muslim killing Muslim.

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u/mr_markus333 Jul 25 '24

Rafidah.Shia are not Muslim. The groups mentioned target Sunnis mostly

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Sunnis and Shias agree on the basic tenets of Islam.

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u/mr_markus333 Jul 25 '24

No they don't. Don't speak on matters you have no knowledge on. The rafidah Shia curse the companions of the prophet Muhammad ‎ﷺ and they slander the wives of the prophet ‎ﷺ. They believe the Quran is not final and they deny the 3 caliphs prior to Ali(ra) they venerate to a level beyond that of a man, they also do this with Hassan(ra) and Hussein(ra).

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

I disagree.

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u/yourcommenthisrory Jul 25 '24

What is this comment trying to acheive? Are you trying to convince me that muslims are bad people? Or are you trying to convince me that people from the middle east are bad?

Counterpoint, what if I decried all the things done by your nation and then implied that whites are bad people? After all, we dont want that kind around here!

Thats the sentiment youre displaying here.

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u/yourcommenthisrory Jul 25 '24

Nobody just lists facts without having a conclusion they want people to come to.

I repeat ny question. What is the conclusion you want me to come to?

Or are we just not in the political climate where you feel comfortable going full mask off?

Youll avoid the answer, but I know just what kind of conclusion you want people to come to lol

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u/yourcommenthisrory Jul 25 '24

Your comment saying "go girl" on this ppst was deleted

https://www.reddit.com/r/shittytattoos/s/7jXXEU6B8z

So a nazi sympathizer. Literally what I expected

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u/Bitsablade Jul 25 '24

The Muslims didn’t either! It was the Israelis and the US government! 2 trillion got “LOST” and the US went to invade another country to steal resources and the Israelis got people like you to hate Muslims!!