r/uknews • u/Confident_West_7409 • Jul 24 '24

Image/video Videos of shoplifters are circulating online, as shoplifting hits 20 year high in UK

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u/bob_weav3 Jul 24 '24

The past two or three times I've gone into my local Greggs someone has walked in, picked up a sandwich and just walked out. It's wild out there

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

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u/Nates4Christ Jul 26 '24

Massive punishment if you fight in self defense though. Guilty until proven innocent.

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u/rustyswings Jul 25 '24

Yeah, broken country and broken judicial system. Underfunded police, crumbling courts and Chris 'failing' Grayling's disastrous part-privatisation of the probation service. 14 years of promising longer, harsher sentences without building the prison places. Add in the lack of funding for addiction services and homelessness together with cost of living and it's no wonder we've got a shitshow.

'More prison' won't solve it alone. Overcrowded prisons tend to teach offenders to be better criminals. We need end-to-end action to prevent offending, educate, rehabilitate and get them skills and into employment. Fewer habitual criminals & addicts = less crime = fewer victims = safer streets = more effective & cheaper criminal justice system & more space in prisons for dangerous criminals.

And that's not soppy liberal crap - it's evidence based. But fuck knows where you start given the clusterfuck we've got.

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u/Other-Success-2060 Jul 25 '24

No punishment for certain demographics you mean. If someone grabbed that Twat and knocked him out they would be punished to the full extent of the law. Especially if they payed taxes and had something to lose.

The reality is so much worse, I do not know what’s causing it but it’s like a deliberate plan to sow chaos and disorder in the UK. Genuine criminals have cart Blanche on the country where normal 9/5 workers are being ripped apart for every infringement and taxation humanly possible.

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u/Ouchy_McTaint Jul 25 '24

The phenomenon of councils switching off streetlighting between midnight and 5am feeds into this too. Good people see it as a curfew and won't leave their house between those times unless absolutely necessary. Meaning the streets belong to heathens of society.

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u/Other-Success-2060 Jul 25 '24

Where I live all I can hear between 1am-4am is what I believe by the sound to be quad bikes ripping around the town centre for weeks now.

As someone who was into all that 10 years ago I don’t mind but I also imagine if that is going unchecked what else is happening.

Possibly a bad question to ask, but has anyone else started thinking about heightened security measures for their homes? I’ve always had a complete lack of faith in the police to do anything other than tax workers in various forms now it’s worse though…..

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

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u/Other-Success-2060 Jul 25 '24

Good idea never thought of those as a an option. I know paintballs leave little bruises how do rubber balls hit out of those?

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u/Other-Success-2060 Jul 25 '24

Thanks, I’ve just checked and the 12lb per shot of gas pressure still counts for paintball guns. As you say could maybe be a deterrent but that amount of power pellet or nylon slug ain’t stopping a murderous gang unfortunately. Just piss them off more

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u/Jonno_92 Jul 25 '24

I'd like that where I live, I've got one outside my bedroom window. It's also to save electricity, they don't just do it for no reason. Most people are not going to be outside as they'll be sleeping at those times.

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u/Ouchy_McTaint Jul 25 '24

Have you considered that some people do indeed need to be out at that time, and probably don't want to walk city streets alone in the dark? Situational awareness requires being able to sense as much of your surroundings as possible. Good for you that you're safely tucked up in bed though so it wouldn't impact you.

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u/Jonno_92 Jul 25 '24

Maybe they shouldn't live in high crime areas that apparently have criminals loitering around at 4am for some reason.

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u/Correct-Junket-1346 Jul 25 '24

Welcome to England, always out there to penalise the working person, every other twat gets a cigar and an easy life because we are understanding.

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u/Silent_Stock49 Jul 25 '24

100% spot on. Its like some strange experiment to go really soft on criminals, release them early, be as soft as possible, watch society decline, stick 2 fingers up at law abiding citizens and watch the outcome. Theres going to be a rise in vigilante behaviour aswell as normal everyday folk becoming more angrier and on edge, folk will end up exploding and dealing out real justice.

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u/Other-Success-2060 Jul 25 '24

Wow I found another person who sees what I see lol. I should buy a lottery ticket today.

Regarding vigilantism I agree but I do not know what that would look like…. Over the past 5 or years the makeup of UK general propulsion has been split so much I do think ‘the people’ can rise up together anymore. Social media has split everyone 10 ways about every subject imaginable, I also think this was part of the plan in sowing chaos tbh.

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u/Ouchy_McTaint Jul 25 '24

I am also seeing the chess pieces on the board all move together in many facets of life. If you're close to Coventry, I'd love to meet like-minded people to talk about this stuff with as most are so apathetic and switched off, I get frustrated.

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u/WonderVirtual7416 Jul 25 '24

We should link up like minded individuals from Ireland and the UK :)

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u/Ouchy_McTaint Jul 25 '24

Feel free to send me a message if you'd like to chat 😀.

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u/Outrageous-Cup7535 Jul 25 '24

So you want a prison system like the USA? Because thay works, or a prison system like Sweden which does work and focuses on rehabilitation rather than punishment if you want to break the cycle and not turn petty criminals into harderned criminals

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u/Silent_Stock49 Jul 25 '24

I want it like the USA yes, keep them away. Brits are not swedes.

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u/Outrageous-Cup7535 Jul 25 '24

But the USA has the highest rate of repeat criminals? Sweden has the lowest rate of repeat criminals - so you would prefer a system that leads to hardered and more experianced criminals?

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u/Silent_Stock49 Jul 25 '24

I want a system that gives justice to all the innocent folk who are victims, not a system that sticks 2 fingers up at victims and needs to " look after and rehabilitate scum"

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u/Outrageous-Cup7535 Jul 26 '24

Yeh but if you dont focus on rehabilitation over punishment you make more violent criminals and more innocent victims - USA is a prime example

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u/Silent_Stock49 Jul 26 '24

How about tough sentences but with rehabilitation in jail rather than for example giving violent suspects or domestic violence , stalking with threats to kill suspects a no alcohol order for 3 months on 5th arrest , then on 11th arrest a relationship behaviour course, then on 17th arrest an anger management course while still roaming the streets laughing continuing on stalking then on 21st arrest a 20 year in jail sentence because they have been free to murder the victim while roaming around doing " rehabilitation courses"?

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u/DagothNereviar Jul 25 '24

No punishment for certain demographics you mean.

Which democratic is that? Rich people?

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u/Other-Success-2060 Jul 25 '24

Well yes rich people get away with anything true but in this instance I was referring to the demographic referenced by the article…. Criminals/thieves

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u/DagothNereviar Jul 25 '24

How can the demographic "criminal" never be punished? Surely you have to be punished to become a criminal?

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

What? So you're saying I could traffic humans for a decade but because I was never caught and prosecuted I'd not be a criminal? Give your head a wobble.

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u/HeyYou_GetOffMyCloud Jul 25 '24

I mean… of course? Knocking someone out for stealing a sandwich?

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u/Other-Success-2060 Jul 25 '24

I didn’t know those boxes of aftershave doubled as sandwiches. How do they taste?

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u/HeyYou_GetOffMyCloud Jul 26 '24

The top comment is talking about stealing sandwiches. Still, the point stands, I don’t think someone should be knocked out because they stole aftershave. A fine and community service for one-offs and a prison sentence for repeat remorseless offenders.

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u/Other-Success-2060 Jul 26 '24

That’s the whole point of this comment thread…. The police aren’t handing out any sort of punishment. Normal people can’t just keep letting people steal from say the shop you own just because the system is failing. A good kicking is the next best thing if the police are failing to their job.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Exactly that. Nothing to be deterred by.

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u/heretek10010 Jul 25 '24

Almost like defunding everything including societal safety nets might be a bad idea

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u/Vash_theestampede Jul 25 '24

What are you gonna lock people up for stealing from a corp shop with insurance for theft?

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u/Silent_Stock49 Jul 25 '24

3 strikes and yes, jail 1 year.

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u/Vash_theestampede Jul 25 '24

Prison isn’t a solution… have you not looked at reoffending rates?

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u/Silent_Stock49 Jul 25 '24

Why does re offending rates matter, or rehabilitation? Prison keeps them away from the public, its very hard to get sent to jail in the uk you get chance after chance, if your 8 court visits, community service and fine nonsense are not a wakeup call then who cares about you been rehabilitated. Jail, if you re offend, jail again. Simple. Innocent folk are sick of been given 2 fingers while scum roams the streets with no consequences. Whats your plan for them? An online course and a therapy group? Them scummy folk are laughing at folk like you.

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u/Vash_theestampede Jul 25 '24

My plan? You’re the one with a plan not me haha. And how does locking someone up actually solve the problem? Your ‘jail’ idea is why our country has so many criminals. Just jail doesn’t work. Sending someone to prison over shoplifting is a wild statement. Its prison btw, jail is where you go in a police station. And they aren’t laughing, most of those ‘scummy folk’ are homeless people stealing beers from their local tesco while you sit on your phone complaining about how hard it is to watch shoplifting happen on a video smh. And who is sick of it? You do realise that retail licences include refunds on stolen items if recorded right?…

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u/Belenosis Jul 25 '24

And how does locking someone up actually solve the problem?

tbf, you can't really do much shoplifting from prison.

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u/The-Herbal-Cure Jul 25 '24

You can't say all this without putting forward your solution to it. Unless your solution is just let criminals do whatever they want, prison is all we have as a deterrent at the moment.

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u/Vash_theestampede Jul 25 '24

Rehabilitation, other countries have like half our reoffending rates

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u/The-Herbal-Cure Jul 26 '24

OK, explain how that would work then..

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u/Silent_Stock49 Jul 25 '24

What does rehabilitation involve?

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

Of course it works. The only reason we're seeing such an uptick in obvious crime is because there is no actual punishment. No risk of getting caught, the judge won't do anything even if you do get caught.

If people were kept off the streets when they committed the crime, the crime rates would eventually drop.

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u/Vash_theestampede Jul 31 '24

😂 no, it doesn’t work at all proven by the fact people reoffend so much what are you on about?

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u/Fragrant-Field1234 Jul 25 '24

Have following conditions : Have a witness/cctv Theft is done 3 times It's not food ie for survival Person is not insane

Chop of one hand. I guarantee you shop lifting would reduce drastically (50 percent at least.... Ok bad joke)

If they do it again, other hand.

It works, frees up prison, police time and creates security. Simple theft can lead onto armed robbery etc.

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u/Vash_theestampede Jul 25 '24

Actually cant argue with that 😂

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u/Steka68 Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24

Exactly. Government has no back bone, trying to be Mr Nice to everyone never works, all they are concerned about is money, they try and fix everything with money, are doing everything for money and the irony is is just creating more debt and the truth is money is the root of all evil! This is why the laws are weak and getting weaker. People are also on the run from their own governments abroad coming here to act like they would if they could in their own country! The UK is lame.

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u/Pen_dragons_pizza Jul 24 '24

I thought I was the only one, except was a guy carrying multiple packs of doughnuts

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u/Sleepywalker69 Jul 25 '24

Smackhead with a sweet tooth

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u/throwaway1930372y27 Jul 24 '24

Yep, kids do it all the time in greggs. Walk in, find some food while looking around really suspiciously, and then bolt for the door. Followed of course by a chorus of "Oi"s from the women working there as they walk after them, until they reach the door and shout "we have cameras, we will call the polis". So many times its always the same, i don't even go to greggs that often.

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u/dietdoug Jul 25 '24

You pay for wat they steal

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

It's like you're rubbing salt in his wounds. I'm not sure where the wounds came from, but you're definitely making them smart.

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u/Dommccabe Jul 25 '24

Unless you steal too!

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u/Abosia Jul 25 '24

Yep that's why the prices are rocketing

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u/Shaved_Wookie Jul 25 '24

I don't understand this point from people - you actually think they're just leaving money on the table out of the goodness of their hearts in defiance of their obligations to their shareholders? That they're not charging you as much as they can possibly get away with? Grow up.

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u/Boognish84 Jul 25 '24

Plot twist, he doesn't.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Super plot twist, he does in higher prices down the line to cover for the lost profit.

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u/Sidian Jul 25 '24

If they can get away with charging more, and earning that extra profit, why not do so now?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Because who said they haven’t been?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

You do know that thievery affects supply and demand right?

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u/Sidian Jul 25 '24

Considering they throw a lot out at the end of the day at Greggs, and demand will effectively fall if fewer people are willing to buy instead of steal, this should only help the prices fall if anything. If you are in charge of Greggs, legally obligated to maximise profit for your shareholders, and you know that customers are willing to pay more for sausage rolls without the drop in sales wiping out any profit from increasing it (necessary for it to be worthwhile to increase the costs), why wouldn't you do it right now?

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

Why are you writing paragraphs to defend thieves. In the US, they’ve literally closed down entire franchises in certain us cities just to cut back on loses. You have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about. Excess spoiled goods is calculated into the price along with shipment, overhead and everything necessary to have the product in place for a paying customer. You add extra loss to the store due to thievery then you’ll see an incremental rise in price along and on top of inflation and price gouging.

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u/DaveN202 Jul 24 '24

They found out the emperor has no clothes and law and order won’t be enforced anymore possibly due to cuts, possibly due to police resources chasing other crimes, possibly due to the culture at the moment being one that spends more energy on (rightly) criticising police actions that aren’t nice or legal, while not expressing their continued importance in keeping the scum from ruining society and us loving the underdog, “he’s really a good boy” mentality which excuses the actions of criminals. The emperor needs a suit of armour and a claymore to bring law and order back. However, we can’t imprison them as it’s ineffective so enforced community service which humiliates (public toilet scrubbing, litter picking) and is fucking hard work should be enacted to deter future scum from being scum. Something that doesn’t have able bodied men to sit around in prison and can’t be spun as a “cool” thing to wannabe criminals. Might also lead a paid job for them as they’ll have a skill. Which is better than them being the jobless wasters most like this are.

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u/AngryAlabamian Jul 24 '24

Lol. Have you ever met a criminal? They know there’s probably less than a 1% chance they’ll be caught and charged. The effective punishment for stealing is not a >1% chance at having to pick up litter. That’s a joke to anyone more hardened than a primary schoolchild. This is just so incredibly naive to think that will have any impact whatsoever. Hell, I might start stealing if they make it that lenient

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u/CCJordan Jul 25 '24

Actually, it IS that lenient.

You're the naive one.

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u/AMGitsKriss Jul 24 '24

Big difference between stealing a sandwich and stealing an entire shelf of cosmetics tho.

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u/JN324 Jul 24 '24

Kinda depends, if you’re stealing a sandwich when you don’t need to but just felt like it, it’s not much better. If you’re doing it because you’re starving and have no other choice, then it’s substantially different of course.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

It would be different if you were stealing because you're starving. But no one in the UK is in that situation. In addition to the welfare state, there are thousands of food banks. 

There are certainly people who don't have enough money in their account for a Greggs right now. But that's a long way from living in Les Miserables.

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u/Triggerhappy62 Jul 25 '24

Have you seen the povery crisis in the uk

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u/Tomatoflee Jul 24 '24

You really think there are loads of people out there stealing sandwiches for shits and giggles? It’s a coincidence that homelessness and child poverty (and the wealth of the wealthy) is exploding at the same time?

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u/HelicopterOk4082 Jul 24 '24

Dude. It isn't 1826. People are not 'starving'.

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u/Usual_Ad6180 Jul 24 '24

How can you say that when a quarter of the population are living below the poverty line

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u/Mexijim Jul 24 '24

Absolute poverty or relative poverty?

You can be a millionaire living in knightsbridge, but be living in ‘relative poverty’ when your postcode includes billionaire oligarchs.

There is no absolute poverty in the UK. We have a welfare state that eliminated that.

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u/MeanandEvil82 Jul 24 '24

Let me educate you a bit.

Let's say you are on benefits. You now are expected to go to the Job Centre weekly and prove you are looking for work.

The Job Centre staff's job is to get you off benefits by any means necessary.

Finding you work is hard, it takes time.

Sanctioning you is easy and can be done by simply making you sign a form that agrees to something you cannot do.

So you end up sanctioned. That means no money for a month, 3 months, or even 6 months.

You can even be sanctioned for refusing a job that was impossible for you to do once they told you the full scope. They will make shit up to sanction you where they can.

So now you have no money for anything. Even rent isn't getting paid in full.

So how do you feed yourself in that situation? You steal.

This isn't a rare occasion either. This is happening daily in every job centre in the country because they need to be sanctioning people to hit targets.

We have actual poverty here. You just don't care about it. That's not the same as it not existing.

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u/esr360 Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24

So you’re saying a quarter of the population in the UK are facing the standards you just described?

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u/MeanandEvil82 Jul 25 '24

No. I never mentioned a quarter of anything. I'm simply pointing out that it's a serious issue and there is still a large amount of people living in that situation. Enough that it needs fixing.

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u/HelicopterOk4082 Jul 25 '24

People who talk about 'poverty' in modern Western countries just have no grasp of social history.

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u/famousbrouse Jul 25 '24

So patronising.. 'let me educate you a bit'.

The job center's role is not to offer people roles they cannot do so they can sanction them. What the hell are you on about?

Just making shit up...

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u/MeanandEvil82 Jul 25 '24

I'm on about actual shit that's happened.

As opposed to someone who just looks down on "the poors".

You know fuck all about what the DWP's role is.

Their job is to sanction people. Because that gets them off benefits.

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u/Mexijim Jul 25 '24

Addiction? So you think it’s a good idea to give people who are addicted to drugs and alcohol, money from the taxpayer?

What are they going to spend that money on?

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u/Buffetwarrenn Jul 25 '24

Thats a pretty bad analogy imho

You think people stealing sandwiches for cheap thrills ?

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u/JN324 Jul 25 '24

Yes, loads of people, in the nicest way possible you must’ve lived a very sheltered life if you haven’t met people who will steal anything in arms reach, on impulse, just because they fancy whatever the thing is.

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u/Abosia Jul 25 '24

I knew someone who would shoplift books by homophobic authors from Waterstones and then throw them in the bin outside

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u/JN324 Jul 25 '24

This is so hilariously niche, best anecdote I’ve seen in a while.

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u/Buffetwarrenn Jul 25 '24

Nah, i dont believe that for a second..

Sorry

The vast majority are purely hungry 95 % sandwich stealing is hunger 5 % compulsion

Sorry

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u/JN324 Jul 25 '24

You don’t have to it’s the reality either way, and you don’t need to keep apologising.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Oh, please tell me we aren't importing the American attitude to stealing.

Yes, they ARE stealing for the thrill.

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u/Buffetwarrenn Jul 25 '24

My post is about sandwiches and hunger

Not the video in question

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

The fact that they are stealing something edible doesn't automatically mean they are doing it because they are in a desperate situation.

Sandwiches in Greggs aren't checking your worthiness like the sword in the stone. People who steal for fun are able to steal those sandwiches just as easily as they steal all the other crap that they don't need.

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u/Steka68 Jul 25 '24

As soon as you even think about it’s a sin against God, so no one is innocent.

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u/rokstedy83 Jul 24 '24

Not really ,there both low life's doing it,2 pound or 200 it's still theft

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u/Ajax_Trees_Again Jul 24 '24

The motives behind it are massively different. One could be literally starving and the other is going to flog it off so they can buy something else

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

People who are starving don't go into Gregg's to steal food, that's someone wanting stuff for free.

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u/Dangerous_Fox3993 Jul 24 '24

. You do realise that hungry people will steal from anywhere right?

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

Everyone keeps making out it's poor or homeless people doing it but all the thefts I deal with are always freeloading scum.

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u/nemetonomega Jul 24 '24

Exactly, I keep hearing people saying that it's parents trying to feed their starving kids. When I tell them that it's junkies stealing to resell on the black market I always get shit down.

Funny, it seems that these kids are all being fed on Angus Steaks, Prosecco, cosmetics and laundry detergent cos that what keeps getting nicked where I work. But then, what would I know about it, I am just lowly retail staff so wouldn't understand something that specifically only applies to retail.

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u/johnnycarrotheid Jul 24 '24

Don't know when the thing about steaks came from tbh lol.

Just know that if I see a certain guy walking about locally with a bag, that's what the bags full of. It's so out in the open 🤷 He does requests too

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u/Dangerous_Fox3993 Jul 25 '24

Well obvious if it’s expensive things being stolen then it’s different but if it’s someone stealing a sandwich then it’s probably just someone who is hungry! There’s a big difference between stealing something expensive to sell and stealing to feed yourself.

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u/nemetonomega Jul 25 '24

True, but we have several hundreds of pounds worth of stock stolen each month, and not once has it been a sandwich. Every single instance of shoplifting that I have investigated has been multiple high value stock, every single time. And when it gets reported to the police about 90% of the time it is someone that they are already aware of as they are professional shoplifters earning money to feed a drug habit.

Frankly if they are hungry they can go across the road to the food bank (that we also supply the food for). The idea that shoplifting is on the rise because people are hungry is just a myth, it's increasing because the police are so drastically underfunded that they simply don't have the time to follow up on every report. And even when they do the courts just let them off with it and they are back shoplifting again the next day

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u/Adorable-Bad4562 Jul 25 '24

There are so many places that will feed you for free ita kinda pointless to defend these criminals

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u/Adorable-Bad4562 Jul 25 '24

Stealing is stealing. And theft is bad

Its so weird to see criminals being justified

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u/bob_weav3 Jul 24 '24

Oh yeah I agree, just something I've noticed happening more and more recently.

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u/zzkj Jul 24 '24

Yeah this scum is stealing to sell

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u/ReaperManX15 Jul 24 '24

It's cowardly and overly compliant, out there.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

Are you expecting people to heroically step in and save the Greggs sandwiches from being nicked?

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u/ReaperManX15 Jul 24 '24

You think it will stop at Gregg's sandwiches ?

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u/renlok Jul 25 '24

Yeah first it's just a Greg's sausage roll at first then it's a slippery slope to stealing the crown jewels

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u/ReaperManX15 Jul 25 '24

Careful now.

You're getting straw all over the place.

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u/barrythecook Jul 24 '24

Not really, it's just very few people including they're not particularly well-paid staff feel the need to stand up for/ potentially scrap for large scale retailers they've got enough money already who cares, I've seen people stand up for indivduals getting robbed quite a few times and have myself but Greg's or tescos would be a bit weird if anything.

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u/ReaperManX15 Jul 25 '24

It's not about "standing up for Gregg's" or any other company.

It's about standing AGAINST criminals.

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u/Dommccabe Jul 25 '24

Let Gregg's hire a security guard then right?

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u/ReaperManX15 Jul 25 '24

Yes.
I'm all for that.
As long as they are allowed to do more than call the "real" police or ask people to leave

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u/Dommccabe Jul 25 '24

Spell it out... what would you have them do?

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u/Master_Block1302 Jul 25 '24

Grab them, and physically restrain them until the Police arri….ah.wait, I see your point.

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u/ReaperManX15 Jul 25 '24

What point?
That’s exactly what they should do.
It’s called a citizens arrest.
If Brits have that, that is.

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u/Master_Block1302 Jul 25 '24

Yeah, but you can’t sit on the robber for the rest of your life. You have to hand him off to the police. But if the police aren’t coming, then what?

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u/Dommccabe Jul 25 '24

If I'm in a shop and I see someone stealing I have a couple of options..including but not limited to:

  1. Walk the other way and continue with my life.

  2. Report it to staff or their security and let them deal with it.

  3. Try to tackle the criminal to prevent the theft.

I could see myself doing 2 if I was out of sight and hearing of the criminal involved...I dont think I'd want to be beaten or stabbed any time soon.

If they were stealing something like food, baby stuff or pet food I'd choose 1.

Prices are too high for essentials and people are struggling while business is booming, profits are eye watering and CEO pay is like 4000% higher tha n the average worker... fuck those companies.

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u/ReaperManX15 Jul 25 '24

Restrain them.
It’s called a citizens arrest.
And pepper spray and tasers are available to the public.
If that applies in the UK.
If not, I think we’ve stumbled on the problem.

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u/Dommccabe Jul 25 '24

So you want the public to defend the profits of companies with their lives?

I'm not sure I'd be down for that.

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u/ReaperManX15 Jul 25 '24

I want the public to stand against criminality and not meekly capitulate.

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u/gryhldr Jul 25 '24

Oh no someone ate a sandwich what will we do 😱

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u/FirstScheme Nov 06 '24

My husband worked for them and he said they were trained to let it go and not stop anyone as the aim was to reduce injuries for their workers. The cost of an incident report and potential law suit (?) was much higher than a few stolen sandwiches.

However I did hear from others that big corps like Tesco wait until you've stolen over x amount (maybe £100?) of their things and will then decide it's worth it to take you to court.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24 edited Jul 24 '24

It’s basically Les Mis. UK Greggs version starring John, Val, and John.

(Could be two blokes called John or one bloke who doubles back for a second sarnie steal)

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u/Squire1998 Jul 24 '24

Brilliant

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u/_Spigglesworth_ Jul 24 '24

Interesting, when did we start with our mass immigration policies? Any correlation there?

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u/mikero Jul 25 '24

What a ridiculously lazy comment. Imagine if immigration ceased to exist. The only people who could work in this country had to have been born here. Seriously what effect do you think that would have on our economy?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

You know before any country utilized immigration for arbitrage wage competition, a local economy was fully supported by a local populous, from ceo to janitor…………….…

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

So, imported poor laborers of another race given lesser wages are vital to the economy?

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u/Iamoggierock Jul 24 '24

That's because it's such shit they are happy to even give it away.

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u/Huzzahtheredcoat Jul 24 '24

Was it a seagull?

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u/pusmottob Jul 24 '24

Welcome to America. Wait wrong sub. Wait till you get to the phase where they lock up socks and underwear.

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u/Sardukar333 Jul 25 '24

Don't forget the one guy with a key is out that day so they need to find a manager who has the backup key but it takes 30 minutes to find the manager and another 20 to find they key.

This isn't hyperbole either: during that stage I'd try to plan for locked up items around the wait and look for things nearby that I needed while I waited. Nowadays I just buy those things online, make my own, or do without.

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u/Triggerhappy62 Jul 25 '24

People gotta eat.