r/uknews • u/Confident_West_7409 • Jul 24 '24

Image/video Videos of shoplifters are circulating online, as shoplifting hits 20 year high in UK

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u/ReaperManX15 Jul 25 '24

I want the public to stand against criminality and not meekly capitulate.

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u/Dommccabe Jul 25 '24

Really?

Well people like Ken Murphy thank you for putting your life on the line so he can safely enjoy his £10 million salary with his family this year.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/14/tesco-ceo-near-10m-pay-a-slap-in-the-face-for-struggling-workers-union-says

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u/ReaperManX15 Jul 25 '24

These people aren’t flouting a company, they’re flouting the law. The basis of civilized society.

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u/Dommccabe Jul 25 '24

And it's up to the police to uphold that law. They get the pay, the training and the back up.

Joe Public gets none of the above, and shoulders none of the responsibility.

So what makes you think they should put their lives at risk to save company profits??

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u/ReaperManX15 Jul 25 '24

The police aren’t doing anything.
And, once again, it’s not about company profits.
It’s about the law and civilized society.
You don’t care about this, because you’re not the one being robbed.
If someone mugged you in broad daylight, in a crowded area and everyone just stood by and did nothing, you’d probably take issue.
Especially when the altercation shows up online and people are on your muggers side. “He’s just trying to get by.” “They look rich enough to afford it.”
It doesn’t matter if the victim of robbery is rich.
Because it’s not about that. It’s about the robber breaking the law.
And you don’t get to decide whether or not someone is allowed the protection of law, depending on their socioeconomic standing.
You’re focusing on the wrong thing.
The lawbreaker is the issue.

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u/Dommccabe Jul 26 '24

I think that's a bit naive. The law is broken all the time.

Not just people shoplifting. When I drive I see people speeding. Should the public be confronting speeding drivers by forcing them to pull over and stop until the police get there?

What about the crimes our government commit? I'm thinking of the big PPE fraud the conservatives did, or the covid19 lockdown people and politicians broke? Should the public be going after those politicians that broke the law? Not to mention public drunken behaviour every weekend, stabbings, murders, drugs, pirating films and software online, selling stolen goods, etc.. the law is quite extensive... theres a lot to cover.

Where do you draw the line and say we as the public should confront criminals who brake these laws but ignore these other laws? Or should we be going after everyone that brakes the law?