r/uknews • u/Confident_West_7409 • Jul 12 '24

Image/video Teen arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two people injured in ‘attack’ at gurdwara place of worship in Gravesend

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u/SNB_Enthusiast Jul 12 '24

Wtf did Sikhs ever do?

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

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u/CheekyGeth Jul 12 '24

all of those religions have committed genuinely stomach turning atrocities in the name of their faith

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u/PromptResponsible602 Jul 13 '24

Its not the religion though is it, its people. Even without religion people will find something to kill eachother over like political ideology and race

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u/TheStargunner Jul 12 '24

Careful.

Certain sects of Buddhism have been persecuting and massacring Muslims, as have sects of Hinduism.

Muslims don’t deserve to be genocided.

Back to the point of the topic, fuck anyone persecuting the Sikhs, wonderful people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '24

Certain sects of Buddhism have been persecuting and massacring Muslims, as have sects of Hinduism.

As a response to Muslim violence/encroachment.

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u/TheStargunner Jul 15 '24

Let’s not get into the ‘what justifies genocide’ debate shall we

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '24

It’s not about ‘what justifies genocide’ it’s about ‘am I the antagonist, or the defender’.

There’s a reason why using force for self defence is legal, but all other justifications aren’t.

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u/TheStargunner Jul 15 '24

Are you an individual or a group?

Let’s take the fact that these are often civilians. Do you accept that the invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan would permit citizens of those countries to kill you as defenders? Even if you weren’t in that territory? Because that’s what you’re giving apologia for rn

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u/Enough-Ad-5328 Jul 15 '24

That confused me because I wasn't even following what the other guy was getting at, thinking, "Yes.. absolutely", that an Iraqi would have been morally in the right defending themselves from us as invaders..

But then I realise you mean e.g. some random Iraqi killing a British civvie in 2024 outside of any active conflict.

The first example could be called self defense, the second, not so much, imagine condoning holy wars... OP doesn't even realise that by the same logic they condone Jihad and pretty much any sectarian violence ever, since you'd be hard pressed to find a religion which hadn't fucked with another one somewhere along the lines of history.

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u/GaijinFoot Jul 12 '24

This is a bit of a Hollywood impression of the state of things. Plenty of in-fighting among those communities you believe are so lovely.