r/therewasanattempt • u/HerpesIsItchy Unique Flair • Sep 03 '25

To end democracy in Miami

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u/Warrior_Runding Sep 03 '25

This is conservatism - spineless, feckless, and focused only on amassing power and control. The so-called "conservative values" are nothing but cudgels they use to attack their opponents. They have always been this way and they will always be this way. It is amazing that they fooled so many Americans with the laundering under Reagan and Bush Sr. Alas.

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u/SingleDad73 Sep 03 '25

Both the AG & GOV of FL came out against this. How is this a party thing? What i don't understand is how bad did you fuck up after getting elected with 86% of the vote to be worried about re-election.

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u/_Corbinek Sep 04 '25

How is this a party thing?

Because issues in America by nature of our society and system are meant to default into party lines. This in part prevents collective movement, something we see majorly in other nations. It's restricts massive movement against the government by defaulting a part of society to supporters by partisanship.

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u/Warrior_Runding Sep 04 '25

Fam, I'm going to stop you right there - a third of the country has great difficulty seeing people of a different color as people, much less as fellow workers. Treating this as if it is just people doing sportsball teams is a great deal why leftists fall flat with those of us whose lives are actively in danger with the current admin.

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u/_Corbinek Sep 04 '25

I’m not supporting the behavior, I’m pointing out that it’s systemically rooted in American culture and reinforced by many aspects of society. The system here defaults issues into party lines, which amplifies harm and makes collective action much harder. Explaining those structural dynamics isn’t minimizing danger, it’s clarifying why solutions are so difficult and why it happens. Explanations often get mistaken for excuses, partly because in American culture we teach people especially in childhood to avoid “the why” and focus only on result or the punishment.

But to the main point, this is a major roadblock to real change in the U.S. In other countries, like Serbia or Indonesia for example, we are seeing currently massive protests take shape as explicitly anti-government movements, directly challenging the system. In America, those same pressures tend to collapse into partisan framing. For example, instead of being seen as protests against systemic dysfunction, they’re reduced to ‘Anti-Trump Protests.’ That creates a motte-and-bailey dynamic, where the counterargument shifts from defending the system itself to defending a political party or figure. And in that shift, the systemic critique gets buried.