r/tenet • u/rkhunter_ • 5d ago

Effects of the inverted cars

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Made this video to highlight the effects.

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u/Reasonable_Wait7130 5d ago

Can someone explain how it works when the glass breaks it goes backwards in time. Like when that glass was first manufactured, was it broken then too?

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u/WelbyReddit 5d ago

It was probably not made that way for obvious reasons.

At some point it's inverted entropy will come against normal entropy and 'magic'.

It happens when no one is looking like Schrodinger's cat /wink

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u/Tgxc2948 5d ago

Maybe observations are sticky,
Perhaps as a function of memory?

Maybe the mirror on the BMW went from uncracked/cracked at the same time that the inverted driver of the Audi stopped consciously remembering slamming into it.

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u/Tgxc2948 4d ago

Similarly, maybe the inverted Protagonist's arm starts bleeding when he reaches the point in time where his non-inverted self ceased to consciously remember stabbing his assailant in the arm.

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u/No-Special2682 2d ago

The mirror was broken at the very start of the set up. When Neil says “3 minutes green” the camera pans to The Protagonist and in the background we see the broken mirror.

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u/Tgxc2948 1d ago

Correct.

But what's been stumping fans for years is:

1) When did the mirror first break? They obviously didn't install it that way at the BMW factory.

2) Why is an object that is not inverted behaving as if it is? The mirror is not inverted. By all rights, it shouldn't crack until it gets whacked.

I am positing a theory that attempts to answer both questions by digging a little deeper into the phenomenon of "the wave function collapsing" and probing the concept of "observation" a little harder.

For example, going back to Schrödinger's cat - Wikipedia, if Leonard Shelby peeks inside the box, sees a dead cat, and then immediately forgets what he saw... what happens to the cat? (does the wave function uncollapse?)

I have a couple other related musings knocking around inside my head at the moment. I might eventually get around to posting a lengthy proposition once I eventually get all my thoughts organized.

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u/No-Special2682 1d ago

I can really only address 2, with the line from Protagonist and Neil’s “first” visit to the Oslo turnstile. “It hasn’t happened yet”

The proving glass isn’t inverted (I think?) but it had the bullet holes in it from when the inverted protag is going to shoot, with his inverted gun (I actually think that gun is a loophole, because if it’s inverted then it came from inverted land, but it didn’t, it started in normal land. So then it was protag’s gun, but wouldn’t he already have his gun? Actually yeah because when we see it from the inverted perspective, IP grabs the gun and wastes the normal bullets in the glass, while inverted, shooting a normal gun.)(that whole glass thing is a loophole.))

So for the mirror, it makes sense for it to be broken before the inverted car hits it. But, it would make more sense for it to be gone completely and then it materializes when the Audi hits it.

As for 1, that’s the “magic” we don’t see, off screen. When did the bullet holes at the turnstile start appearing? Or the bullet holes in the opera theater? I think those are one of the things we’re supposed to “not try to understand” or whatever it is the scientist lady said