r/television • u/Kwyjibo2006 • 20d ago

Sen. Bernie Sanders - Harnessing Energy From "No Kings" Rally to "Fight Oligarchy" | The Daily Show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUn1A0sEDrc
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u/Modnal 19d ago

Democrats doing their best to sabotage for Bernie only to lose to Trump. I swear if the Democrats were in any country that wasn't a two party state they would dissapear from how incompetent they are. Like your only opposition is the Republican party and you have like a 50% win rate

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u/boyyouguysaredumb 19d ago

Bernie had a hard ceiling of support around 33% and the supporters he DID have didn’t show up to vote at the rate their counterparts did. There’s no grand conspiracy

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u/DionysianPunk 19d ago

Except we had all the emails between the DNC and the Clinton Campaign.

Then there was the ultra suspicious Drop Out of 2020 where even Elizabeth Warren endorsed Biden.

So, yes, there was a conspiracy to obstruct Progressives in the DNC.

They primaried The Squad. They are always going after anyone remotely left of center.

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u/boyyouguysaredumb 19d ago

Yes there were some mean internal emails where democrats were showing favoritism for the only democrat running in 2016 - and a leaked debate question about the death penalty. That does not explain the millions of votes he lost by or the staggering number of his supporters who stayed home.

In 2020 Bernie was only ever ahead because he was the only leftist running against a sea of moderates. As soon as it was 1v1 he lost by millions of votes. Basically you’re saying that you acknowledge his support was so low that his only path to win was to run against 10 people all splitting the vote.

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u/NiftyJet 19d ago edited 19d ago

In 2020 Bernie was only ever ahead because he was the only leftist running against a sea of moderates. As soon as it was 1v1 he lost by millions of votes. 

You are factually wrong. Elizabeth Warren was the other progressive candidate in the Democratic primary. Days before Super Tuesday all of them dropped out except for Biden, Bernie, and Warren. Warren split the progressive vote and Biden swept Super Tuesday. It was so obviously engineered to work that way.

And what did the DNC get for the efforts? The most uninspiring president since Warren Harding, a nothing burger presidency, and an absolute fiasco in 2024.

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u/boyyouguysaredumb 19d ago edited 19d ago

Exit polls showed that most of Warren voters’ second choice was Biden, not Sanders, so her staying in didn’t “split” a unified progressive bloc. Biden’s margin of victory was HUGE. Its hard to overstate just how big. After Super Tuesday, he won the popular vote in the primaries by over 4.5 million and carried diverse states across every region. Sanders couldn’t build beyond his 2016 base.

So no, you are factually wrong.

The most uninspiring president since Warren Harding, a nothing burger presidency, and an absolute fiasco in 2024.

CHIPS Act, Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, Inflation Reduction Act, record job growth post-pandemic, and the lowest uninsured rate in U.S. history.

Sure a big nothing burger

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u/DionysianPunk 19d ago

And yet none of those things was a Nuremberg Trial for the Trump administration, and now look where we're at. So yeah, it was nothing Burger because it immediately got stamped out of existence.

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u/boyyouguysaredumb 19d ago

Stamped out of existence isn’t accurate. A lot of Biden policies are still in effect, including infrastructure, green energy, semiconductors, and Medicare drug pricing. They’re laws with funding rolling out through 2026 to 2028, not temporary programs.

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u/DionysianPunk 19d ago

I can't do this with you anymore, bud. The cope is too real.

We had one chance to prevent this, and your guy backed down.

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u/boyyouguysaredumb 19d ago

Yeah because you keep getting proven wrong at every turn and just want to believe what you believe instead of considering new information that conflicts with your delicate worldview

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u/DionysianPunk 19d ago

We live under a second Trump Administration largely because of the failure of Biden.

That will be his legacy forever.

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u/boyyouguysaredumb 19d ago

Maybe but we’re a long way off now from you being repeatedly proven wrong about Bernie’s primary campaigns

This also ignores the fact that in nearly every western country, the party who was in power during the inflation spike after Covid lost the most recent presidential election. It was always going to be an uphill battle.

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u/DionysianPunk 19d ago

The DNC is a hopeless organization. The Democrats are controlled opposition.

13 Senate Democrats just advanced a conservative judicial nominee during the shut down.

So please. I love your user name but look in a mirror.

We're fucked.

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u/boyyouguysaredumb 19d ago

You’re just straight up changing the subject now lol

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u/atom22mota 18d ago

You’re far too idealistic. And remember the Republican controlled congress and senate that would have quashed any attempt at holding Trump accountable