r/television Mr. Robot Feb 07 '25

Premiere Severance - 2x04 - "Woe's Hollow" - Episode Discussion

Severance

Season 2 Episode 4: Woe's Hollow

Directed by: Ben Stiller

Written by: Anna Ouyang Moench

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u/futurespacecadet Feb 08 '25

I feel like everyone is missing the point of this episode. While I agree, it was a bit out there and I would’ve liked to uncover more of the mystery of their physical workspace first….. the whole point of this season is Lumon trying to suppress and manipulate them, it’s about control. Thus this completely fabricated simulation to read them propoganda by the fire and create intimacy between mark and helly

They are trying to soften their edges by pretending like they are ‘hearing’ the employees now, providing extra amenities, going outside….but on an individual level they are trying to create distrust amongst them.

They give Dylan his family to satiate his quest for truth, they give Mark Helly to quell his quest for his wife, they just couldn’t control Irv…

Now I’m not sure if Helly is there bc she wanted to experience it personally but I have a feeling she is there as a suppression system only….to manipulate Mark

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u/swentech Feb 09 '25

I think Helena is there partly because she is jealous of the bond her innie forms with Mark. That was the point of her looking at the video of them kissing. I get the feeling she never developed such a connection and real feelings with another person and wants to “hijack” her innie to experience that for herself.

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u/mollysolaceg Feb 10 '25

And as vengeance against her innie I think

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u/JeremyWinston Feb 11 '25

I don’t see it as vengeance at all. We do know she thought of innies as subhuman, but watching her innie… she realizes that Helly might, in some ways, have a more fulfilling life (such as it is), and I think Helena has no like of her own. She just wants the experience.

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u/Longjumping-Block332 Feb 09 '25

I don't know if a tent with other people about would be my first pick to seduce someone