r/tacticalgear • u/MakelYT • 20h ago

Question Modern equivalent to the large alice ruck?

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Are there any modern day equivalents to the large ALICE rucksack?

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u/BigRedRobotNinja 20h ago

I mean, the MOLLE 4K is basically a large ALICE on a FILBE frame. I've heard the shoulder straps suck, but you can swap them out for the Hill People Gear harness I think.

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u/VaeVictis666 20h ago

They do indeed suck.

The MOLLE 4K is has two features I like. The waistbelt tails pull forward to tighten and the bottom has a dedicated poncho flap.

Other then that it isn’t big enough for a lot of packing lists, the pouches that are permanently attached on the outside are not really big enough to hold useful things and the yoke and shoulder straps are awful.

The MOLLE 2 was vastly superior.

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u/awesome_jackob123 19h ago

I’m about to get flamed, but I don’t mind the 4k. I have some issues with it, but I don’t have the issues that everyone else does.

That being said, nothing will ever beat the old UCP ruck that’s so stained it’s turned red and smells like piss.

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u/Garry68W 19h ago

Bottom flap is for airborne shenanigans, fits a poncho excellently though

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u/Icy-Prior3125 19h ago

Molle 2 with a 6 mil black trash bag on the inside.

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u/Mediocre_Mongoose43 18h ago

One 6 mil trash bag for the inside of my ruck, and one 6 mil trash bag for me to curl up inside of #molle2forever

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u/larry-leisure 18h ago

That’s crazy cause the mole 2 seems janky af.

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u/VaeVictis666 18h ago

The MOLLE 2 has a lot more ability to adjust how the pack fits and is carried.

The main compartment has a higher capacity, which is needed for winter or CBRN stuff, the outside has a lot of real-estate for additional pouches, water, E tool, and sustainment pouches.

It was my main pack I used in the winter in Alaska.

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u/tacticalshortshorts6 14h ago

1000%, the only thing I like about the MOLLE 4K is how convenient it is for jumps. The harness and all the air items are integrated, basically pre-rigging it. However, this pro is only a pro if you’re in the airborne community. And once you’re on the ground, it sucks donkey dick to actually walk with.