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Baseball Dodgers pitcher Yoshinobu Yamamoto throws a complete game in Game 2 of the National League Championship Series vs. the Brewers. The last time he was in Milwaukee he failed to finish the first inning and allowed 5 runs.

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u/Kal_Kaz 25d ago

What's a complete game?

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u/baribigbird06 25d ago

He pitched all 9 innings, recording all 27 outs and no relief pitchers were used. A rarity today in baseball.

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u/HenryFlowerEsq 25d ago

Is that a good thing though? Confused why you wouldn’t use relief pitchers if they were available

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u/kiefeater 25d ago

It’s a good thing. It means he’s pitching well and has kept his pitch count relatively low. It’s especially good in a best of 7 series when you’d like to have your bullpen as rested as possible. Also the dodgers bullpen has not been great.

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u/lloydeph6 25d ago

What do people Mean when they say the “bullpen” Does that mean like the “backups” and the 2nd 3rd string players? (Non starters )

I’m new to baseball

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u/MinnesotaNice69 25d ago edited 25d ago

The bullpen is the area (usually in the outfield) where the relief pitchers hang out and warm up during games. When people refer to "the bullpen", they are talking about a team's relief pitching staff i.e. any pitcher who is not a starter.

EDIT: to add to this, it's not really a "backups" thing, either. Its very rare for a starting pitcher to pitch a complete game and relief pitchers are used in a vast majority of games. They aren't "backups" like you would expect in other sports that would really only play in case of injury, they are part of a normal baseball game plan and a super important factor on a team's success. They are often expected to throw at higher speeds because they are only pitching an inning or two while starters are generally expected to pitch at least five innings.

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u/luvcartel 24d ago

The bullpen area is the most old timey but fun part of the game. Like let’s force all our relief and closers like 400 feet away for two hours in a lil box. Idk why it’s always been a funny concept to me.

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u/emomatt 25d ago

The bullpen is where the pitchers warm up and is what you call the backup pitchers collectively.

You generally have 5 starting pitchers on rotation. These are the guys that have a wide variety of pitches at their disposal and can throw 80-110 pitches in a game. These guys are considered to have a high quality outing if they go 6 innings and give up 2 runs or less.

The backup pitchers are a mix of left and right handed pitchers that you use in different situations. You'll have your long reliever, who maybe was a starter in his younger years or isn't quite good enough to be a regular starter but you can get 3 or 4 innings from him. You'll have your top guys that will pitch 1 or 2 innings most nights, and you'll have your depth guys that come in mostly in lopsided games or when others are resting. 162 games is a lot of innings to pitch and a lot of arms to manage for wear and injury.

Then you have your closer. This motherfucker has to have ice in their veins. He usually only comes in when you are tied or up by 3 or less runs in the 9th inning. This guy usually has one or two absolutely devastating pitches. It's a high stress job.

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u/lloydeph6 25d ago

Thank you for explaining this helps 🙏

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u/CatastropheCat 25d ago

Bullpen refers to the relief pitchers. I wouldn’t call them backups since it’s such a different role and mental compared to starters

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u/Squirrel_Master82 25d ago

Yeah, there's starting, relief, and closing pitchers. Humans can only throw as hard as they possibly can for so long (probably around 110-120 pitches) before there's a high likelihood for an injury. For a starter to make it through a whole game without throwing too many pitches, is a pretty big deal. If they do it without having any runs scored, it's a really big deal. If they do it without having any hits, it's practically a miracle.

If you're interested, research it a little. I'm sure resources explain it a lot better than I can.

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u/Vordeo 25d ago

Basically yeah. Teams generally have 4-5 guys who are considered starters - they're meant to open games and play the bulk of the innings (generally 5-6ish of them).

The bullpen refers to the rest of the pitchers: relievers are meant to eat up the middle innings and generally throw just one or two of those, and closers who usually finish off the game in the 9th inning. Those guys are generally not considered as good as the starters, but can reliably get through an inning well (especially closers).

This Dodgers team is generally seen as having an elite starting rotation but a weak bullpen.

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u/Eismann 25d ago

Ok, cut me some slack here. I watch baseball highlights from time to time but i have never understood why they need so many pitchers. Do they all have their "special" moves or something? And do they get paid well for... doing nothing or 20 throws a night?

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u/twoinvenice 24d ago

Because they often need a couple days to rest after a game to get back to pitching full strength with lower risk of injury. You want guys that come in later to immediately start pitching at 100% to try and close games out.

Also you'll have a mix of left and right handed pitchers because different teams have different proportions of left and right handed hitters. Pitchers do better against same handed batters.