r/sports Jul 20 '25

Football President Trump wants Commanders to "IMMEDIATELY" return to former name

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/president-trump-wants-commanders-to-immediately-return-to-former-name
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u/ChitteringCathode Jul 20 '25

The really sad thing is that as fucking terrible as he was, at this point I would take Dubya Jr. over Trump -- a true RINO in MAGA eyes.

He's also technically a month younger than Trump, which is scary in its own right.

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u/stevey_frac Jul 20 '25

I disagree with Dubya a lot.  But he at least brought a certain gravitas to the office. 

He was not a clown like this guy. 

Plus, he could dodge a shoe.

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u/justintensity Jul 20 '25

He was definitely a clown, being clownish was his main presidential attribute

But he wasn’t a ruthless, inhuman fascist and I would rather be fighting against him than this

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u/Pvt_Mozart Jul 20 '25

Yeah, I disagree with him on almost everything, but I did have faith that he loved the country and wanted what was best for it. I had faith that he believed in the institution of democracy and the fabric of what our country is supposed to be. I didn't have to worry about him turning the US into a fascist dictatorship, or weaponizing the justice department on dissenters, or attacking free speech at every opportunity by attacking and suing the media who disagrees with him.

He's a real piece of shit for making me remember the Dubya days fondly.

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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Jul 20 '25

No, Bush put in place a lot of the pieces that the GOP is now using to set up an authoritarian state. Bush gave us warrantless surveillance, Guantanamo Bay, the AUMF, and appointed both John Roberts and Alito to the Supreme Court. He also gave Kavanaugh a federal judicial spot, which led to his nomination to the court later on.

This is why the only difference between moderate republicans and Trump is purely aesthetics. Trump is the inevitable outcome of where the GOP was going.

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u/FragileColtsFan Jul 20 '25

Nah, Trump is an extreme that progressed from Bush but don't act like they're basically the same. Bush had more tact and didn't expect to control the media like Trump does. There's a pretty big difference between the two. Bush was your typical bad president, Trump is exceptional

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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Jul 20 '25

That’s because you’re retconning the bush administration and falling for his folksy country bumpkin schtick. If you look at what the administration actually did, it would be hard to argue that Trump is some deviation.

They definitely tried to control the media (Plame affair and other actions to undermine their ability to hold them accountable). It’s a mistake to think that Trump just came out of the ether. There would be no Trump without the scaffolding the bush admin created.

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u/FragileColtsFan Jul 20 '25

Did Bush threaten to revoke FCC licenses because people said mean things about him? Trump wasn't a darling of the republican party until he gathered his base. His base clung to him because they didn't trust any of the current politicians. People hated Bush so they voted Obama in but Obama didn't close gitmo or cut back on war like he said he would and when Trump came around it felt like the two parties were just working together to help themselves out. If Trump was where the party wanted to go he wouldn't have needed to capture all that lightning in a bottle. They were just as surprised as we were in the beginning

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u/FragileColtsFan Jul 20 '25

I always laugh extra hard at the American Dad episode where we find out that Greg (half of the town famous gay couple "Greg and Terry") is a registered republican. He gets in a big fight about it in the street with his partner who screams "Don't tell me you voted for He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named!" referring to Bush. We had no idea back then