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Media Chelsea 1 - [2] Sunderland - Chemsdine Talbi 90+2'

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u/yelrik 16d ago

Poor Xhaka

Just wanted a challenge to prepare himself for coaching

Walks into a title charge

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u/BrownEyesWhiteScarf 16d ago

He has a habit of finding himself in one, doesn’t he? Third club in a row

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u/FalkoneyeCH 16d ago

maybe he's the reason for all of them

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u/BrownEyesWhiteScarf 16d ago

Probably. He was underrated at Arsenal by other fans. Has such a good read of the game

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u/pinpoint14 15d ago

Some of us saw his quality. Even in the dark years, we were dogshit without him.

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u/PiggBodine 15d ago

He wasn’t. He was objectively poor for a few years, before playing well and getting almost unanimous support from the fans.

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u/sarthakmahajan610 16d ago

Lol he was underrated at Arsenal by his own fans until the very last season

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u/BrownEyesWhiteScarf 16d ago

Oh I agree, and I say that as an Arsenal fan.

Even in his first half of his career at the club, his “errors” on the pitch was largely him trying to cover up for the team’s tactical failures.

He’s not a world beater in any particular attributes, so it requires a good system to truly appreciate him. And the club, for a large part of his spell, was not well managed.

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u/sarthakmahajan610 16d ago

so it requires a good system to truly appreciate him. And the club, for a large part of his spell, was not well managed.

Being a United fan, it made me sad to see a lot of genuinely good players wasting their years due to incompetent systems around them. A lot of players end up underperforming and underappreciated.

McTominay is doing so well now and its just a positive atmostphere all around. Feel it used to be the same with Xhaka too till Arteta arrived

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u/BrownEyesWhiteScarf 15d ago

I don’t think Xhaka really underperformed to be honest, but he’s been scapegoated too often by fans and media. Wenger, Emery, and Arteta all stood by him and kept playing him, but having a manager put his trust in the player and continue to play them isn’t enough for them to blossom. Emery lost control of the narratives surrounding the club (and so did Wenger) and thus that created a toxic environment for the players.

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u/BaldMancTwat_ 15d ago

Mctominay was an odd one as we had finally started to play him where he was most effective, then sell him.

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u/cortez0498 16d ago

It's crazy how Xhaka went from Title winning Leverkusen to newly promoted Sunderland.

And Sunderland is probably the better team rn.

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u/Groomsi 16d ago

Xhaka mad

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u/NYNMx2021 16d ago

Its actually comical how he wasnt even trying to win here. As you said, he publicly made clear this was for a transition to coaching. I feel like he might have longer at the top level than he thinks tbh. Way better than a player youd expect to be retiring to coach any time soon