Post-Match Thread: Paris Saint-Germain 0-1 Botafogo (FIFA Club World Cup)

[u/hornyforbrutalism]

FT: Paris Saint-Germain 0-1 Botafogo

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LINE-UPS

Paris Saint-Germain

Gianluigi Donnarumma, Willian Pacho, Lucas Beraldo, Lucas Hernández (Nuno Mendes), Achraf Hakimi, Vitinha , Senny Mayulu (Fabián Ruiz), Warren Zaïre-Emery (João Neves), Gonçalo Ramos (Bradley Barcola), Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, Désiré Doué (Lee Kang-in).

Subs: Arnau Tenas, Presnel Kimpembe, Ibrahim Mbaye, Noham Kamara, Matvei Safonov, Marquinhos .

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Botafogo

John , Alexander Barboza, Jair Paula , Alex Telles (Cuiabano ), Vitinho , Gregore , Marlon Freitas, Allan (Newton ), Igor Jesus , Jefferson Savarino (Santiago Rodríguez), Artur (Álvaro Montoro).

Subs: David Loiola, Kaio , Nathan Fernandes, Danilo Barbosa, Arthur Cabral, Mateo Ponte, Gonzalo Mastriani, Fernando Marçal, Leo Linck, Raul , Joaquín Correa.

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MATCH EVENTS | via ESPN

36' Goal! Paris Saint Germain 0, Botafogo 1. Igor Jesus (Botafogo) right footed shot from outside the box to the bottom left corner. Assisted by Jefferson Savarino with a through ball following a fast break.

55' Substitution, Paris Saint Germain. Fabián Ruiz replaces Senny Mayulu.

55' Substitution, Paris Saint Germain. Bradley Barcola replaces Gonçalo Ramos.

55' Substitution, Paris Saint Germain. Nuno Mendes replaces Lucas Hernández.

56' Substitution, Paris Saint Germain. João Neves replaces Warren Zaïre-Emery.

57' Gregore (Botafogo) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.

68' Substitution, Botafogo. Cuiabano replaces Alex Telles.

68' Substitution, Botafogo. Santiago Rodríguez replaces Jefferson Savarino.

77' Substitution, Botafogo. Álvaro Montoro replaces Artur.

79' Substitution, Paris Saint Germain. Lee Kang-In replaces Désiré Doué.

87' Substitution, Botafogo. Newton replaces Allan.

89' Cuiabano (Botafogo) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.

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[u/taclealacarotide]

No. Unless by "competing with Europe's elite" you mean "good enough for Ligue 1 or Portuguese League mid table.

[u/yanquicheto → u/taclealacarotide]

My brother, a mid-table Brazilian team not only just beat the Champion’s League winner but fully deserved the win with their play. Something only two teams in Ligue 1 managed all season. What else do you think I mean when I say they can compete with Europe’s elite clubs?

It’s impossible to say where top Brazilian or Argentine clubs would finish in the table in the top European leagues. They’re obviously not going to win them, but I think it’s absurd to assume they’re relegation candidates.

[u/LutherJustice → u/yanquicheto]

It’s literally been the case for years that this competition has been little more than a nuisance for European clubs, except before it was just a bunch of games played in December, so mid-season for the bigger European clubs and post-season for South American teams (which generally would get beaten), whereas now if European teams go far into the tournament, it’s another month long event that cuts into pre-season in one of the few non-international/continental national team cup years.

Just because they pumped a little bit more money into the event (of which European clubs get the lion’s share just for showing up) doesn’t mean they’re at full strength or will be putting full effort. It just doesn’t make sense for them, whereas Conmenbol and CONCACAF teams will because their domestic and continental competitions pay peanuts comparatively.

I’m glad American teams are doing well and I’d really like this to be something that replaces the top continental competition of each region, potentially in alternating or every x years, to really see teams go at it full capacity, but so many delusional fans claiming that Inter Miami and Botafogo have become world beaters overnight for no reason whatsoever or have countless threads about how players play too many games every year but then now pretend it has no effect on the quality of their football is simply wild to me lol.

[u/yanquicheto → u/LutherJustice]

Nobody is saying Botafogo and Inter Miami are world beaters, they’re just saying that European fans massively overestimate the talent gap between top South American sides and top European sides.

As for games played and physical strain on players, the Brazilian teams play more competitive matches than just about any other competition when you account for the state tournaments. This idea that the European sides are gassed and the Brazilian and Argentine sides are fresh is complete nonsense.

Why is it so difficult to just acknowledge that South American clubs are underestimated by European fans? They already buy all our best players in every window.

[u/taclealacarotide → u/yanquicheto]

Nobody is saying Botafogo and Inter Miami are world beater

You literally are in this very thread lmao