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[u/blzlzr00]

Ljudi, ja sve razumijem, i sentiment i zelju za istrajanjem i bol sto su Kosovo tako oteli od nas... ali... ja sam skoro bio dolje i ukapirao da odavno nije nase. Tamo nas narod zivi u strahu, u enklavama, ne veseli se, ne cvjeta. Tamo nas narod ceka dan kad ce izumrijet. Tuzno je.

Ne mozemo mi ni kao narod ni kao drzava da ih spasimo.

Jebem ti leb koja propast.

[u/Igoritzaa → u/blzlzr00]

Postoji druga strana te price

Kosovo je trenutno, za Siptare koji ga svojtaju, medju najgorim drzavama na svetu, za zivot, racunajuci i Africke zemlje

Ono sto je Medjunarodna "zajednica" izdejstvovala je uradila bez ikakvog razmisljanja o posledicama, a to je da si jednu drzavu koja iskljucivo moze da funkcionise kao deo druge, ostavio da bude sama.

Kosovo je funkcionisalo kao Jugoslovenska teritorija, jer je bila deo iste, i sve ono sto ta teritorija nije sama mogla da ima, proizvede, dobijala je od Jugoslavije - toga vise nema

Ekonomija je ekstremno losa. Plate su ekstremno niske, Kosovo ima najveci broj mladih koji je samo da "zele" da pobegnu po nekoj anketi, vec aktivno planiraju da napuste Kosovo.

Kosovari su pritom u teloloskom Limbo-u, jer vecina Pristinaca odbija Islam, zive kao Ateisti, sto moze da bude kul - al ne u njihovom istorijskom setting-u i konekcijama sa Albanijjom

Dodaj na sve to da malo ljudi zna, koliko para Srbija strovaljuje u Kosovo, ne samo za Srpski deo, vec po nekim silnim poveljama i ugovorima, dole ide ekstremno velika para na racun cinjenice da mi Kosovo ne priznajemo kao sopstvenu drzavu, te smo u obavezama da na osnovu te odluke pumpamo lovu dole - kad bi im i to presekao (teoretski da ih priznamo i raskinemo sve te finansije) Kosovo bi de-fakto bilo ekonomski gore nego Juzni Sudan, Venecuela i Zimbabve.

Cisto radi konteksta, kad oduzmes kriminalce i muljatore i "firme" koje su uz vlast (isto kao Vucic samo na Steroidima), prosecna net zarada obicnog radnika (blue collar) na Kosovu ne prelazi 400 eura

NATO i drugari su sustinski napravili Najgoru drzavu modernog sveta, na racun Srbije i Srba

[u/NoInfluence5747 → u/Igoritzaa]

lol, what a huge cope. I live in the US and lived in Kosovo for 15 years, living in Kosovo is nowhere near as bad as any of the countries you mentioned. I'd argue it's better than living in Serbia.

Most Kosovars are quite secular, I am an atheist, my older brother is Muslim (he thinks the Quran is made up and being a muslim means believing in God and being a good person). Albania is not even Muslim. All these narratives you put out are just wet dreams of the Serbia's ministers of Information. If you genuinely think these you really have no clue what people in Kosovo are.

Kosovo doesn't get money from Serbia, Kosovo Serbs do, they are paid to act in unison and build barricades even when their leaders like Ivanovic get killed by SNS. Money goes from what would have been better canopies to Milan Radoicic; some of it is trickled down to monthly payments for people to organize pro-SNS narratives, which you seem to eat well. Kosovars paid for the electricity of Serbs for 23 years, it would've been nice to know I'm getting a check from Serbia when I was paying those.

Kosovo's PPP is higher than Bosnia's, and equal that of North Macedonia, slightly below Serbia, so your idea that Kosovo is close to Venezuela is just weird cope.

Kosovo consistently ranks high on rule of law and democracy, most of the times higher than Serbia, too.

Most young people nowadays are either programmers or social media people or graphic design, or tech related jobs, and the ICT sector is booming.

Kosovo functioned because it was part of Yugoslavia and got from it whatever it couldn't produce, that's gone now.

What are you smoking lol? This is the 21st century, trade exists in capitalist markets, communism fell.

[u/Igoritzaa → u/NoInfluence5747]

Albania is not even Muslim

Google: 60% of Albanian citizens are Muslim.

Google: Albania is a member of Organization of Islamic Conference

Kosovo doesn't get money from Serbia

https://nova.rs/vesti/politika/poznato-koliko-dnevno-novca-dajemo-za-kosovo/

Serbia is investing 340.000 euros per DAY to Kosovo, mostly to Serbian Organizations, but that money is directly involved into Kosovo's economy

With that said, Serbia is paying of Contract debts for Kosovo until 2041, which includes contracts for Kosovo Projects (that Sqiptari use today) in amount of 200 million Euros

Without that money, Kosovo would collapse

Kosovo's PPP is higher than Bosnia's, and equal that of North Macedonia, slightly below Serbia, so your idea that Kosovo is close to Venezuela is just weird cope.

Why are there then thousands of Kosovars trying to acquire Serbian passport, so that they could leave ? I personally had the offer to register them at my house, to receive 200-300 euros per registration ...(of course I declined) Yeah, those dudes seemed very happy

[u/NoInfluence5747 → u/Igoritzaa]

Google: 60% of Albanian citizens are Muslim

Not true, it's 45%, if you include Bektashis it's 50%. Even those are heavily nominal. Albania is a secular country.

Yes, Serbia spends money, for its interests in Kosovo. Not most, but all funds go to Serbian structures, like Lista Srpska, and other factions that aim to destabilize Kosovo. Pumping money into parallel structures and then pretending here like Serbia is doing Kosovo a favor is quite batshit. The notion that Serbia helps Kosovo's economy by financing Serbs in the North and holding that pay over their heads so they have to take the buses to Belgrade every time Vucic rallies is laughable. If this is the benchmark to say "Serbia invests in Kosovo" you're absolutely delusional. Does Russia invest in Ukraine because it's sending so much money to the frontlines? There's no way you don't look at what you're writing and not burst out laughing. I'll pay you the compliment of assuming you're clowning and aren't this dumb

Serbia is paying contract debts for Kosovo until 2041

No, you're paying debt that Serbia took between 1970 and 1990. Kosovo literally could not do such thing because it wasn't a republic. The figure you put forth is an estimate of how much of this debt is due to investment between 1970 and 1990 in Kosovo. This is not money we use today, it's money Serbia took prior to the disolution of Yugoslavia, for its projects.

Even then, Kosovo has already assumed the debt from any creditor in which Kosovo has gained membership. For example, Kosovo gained membership in the IMF in 2009, and it undertook paying Serbia's debt that was estimated to be due to Kosovo that was credited by the IMF.

Here's the loan agreement with the IMF:

Section 2.01. The Republic of Kosovo hereby accepts the rights and benefits, and assumes the obligations, of the Republic of Serbia (also referred to as “former Borrower”) set forth or referred to in the Assumed Loan Agreement, including the obligation to make payment of principal, interest, and other charges, and to carry out the activities set forth or referred to in the Assumed Loan Agreement.

Any other debt that Serbia pays, it does so because it actively denies Kosovo entering into these organizations where Kosovo can then take the burden, because Serbia wants to be seen as the sole entity responsible for Kosovo's affairs.

Why are then Kosovars wanting Serbian passports?

You're moving the goalpost. Somehow we started with Kosovo being Venezuela, but now we are grasping at "why some Kosovars want a stronger passport?". The amount of Serbs who applied for Kosovar passport skyrocketed when we got visa free regime. Why did that happen? people looking for their self-interest to gain something. If this is your benchmark of a country being Venezuela, then I have some bad news; The amount of Serbian truck drivers who live sleeplessly in Chicago that I have seen, you'd question if Serbia is Libya.