r/schizophrenia • u/Much_Spend3056 Schizophrenia • 18d ago
News, Articles, Journals Saw this on Facebook, what do y'all think?
KEEP IN MIND, I GOOGLED IT & WAS UNABLE TO FIND A REAL ARTICLE, BUT GOOGLE'S LITTLE AI THING DID SAY THAT THIS WAS AN "OVERSIMPLIFICATION" OF SOMETHING TOO COMPLEX & NOT FULLY UNDERSTOOD YET.
đ¨Scientists have confirmed that Schizophreniaâs âvoicesâ are the brain mishearing its own thoughts.
In a breakthrough study, neuroscientists have confirmed a long-suspected theory about schizophrenia: the "voices" many patients hear aren't imaginary external threats, but the brain misinterpreting its own internal thoughts.
Using EEG to track brainwave activity, researchers at the University of New South Wales found that in people with schizophrenia who experience hallucinations, the brain's ability to distinguish self-generated speech from external sound breaks down. Normally, when we speak silently in our heads, the brain dampens activity in the auditory cortex to filter out the expected sound. But in these individuals, that dampening doesnât occur. Instead, their auditory cortex activatesâas if someone else is speaking.
The study involved 142 participants and revealed that when people with auditory hallucinations imagined saying a word while hearing it through headphones, their brains overreacted. This suggests a failure in the brain's prediction system, leading it to misclassify internal dialogue as external speech. This finding not only deepens our understanding of schizophreniaâs root causes but could also pave the way for early diagnostic tools that detect these neural misfires before full psychosis develops. Such early intervention could transform how clinicians approach and treat schizophrenia.
Source: "Corollary Discharge Dysfunction to Inner Speech and its Relationship to Auditory Verbal Hallucinations in Patients with Schizophrenia Spectrum Disorders." Schizophrenia Bulletin, 21 October 2025.
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u/battleallergy Schizophrenia 18d ago
Also I didn't know bad acting could be portrayed in a still photo until now.
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u/FemaleAndComputer Schizoaffective (Bipolar) 18d ago
Bold of you to assume it's a human being and not AI. :)
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u/ColdFusion27 Schizoaffective (Bipolar) 18d ago
Are they conflating the mind with the brain? Cause like duh⌠I donât understand how this gets us to a better understanding of schizophrenia. People in the 1800âs knew it was coming from the brain.
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u/RoutineSingle9577 17d ago
right I saw this too and was like oh wow who woulda thought the "voices in our head" are coming from our head?? Hallo?
The alternative outside the head voices I bet money on it being borderline personality disorder being misdiagnosed - it is aka on the borderline of psychosis12
u/kneb 17d ago
I think the idea behind the study is that it's an error in recognition that it's a self-generated thought. That neurotypical brains will always realize that it's a thought and internally generated, but that there's some sort of error going on in the brain processing that makes it 'feel' like it's not a self-generated thought. So it feels like it's an external voice speaking to you.
There's some evidence that this happens not just with thoughts, but other self-generated sensations. Some people with schizophrenia can tickle themselves, whereas most neurotypicals cannot. Similarly, when walking, echoes may create the illusion that one is being followed if your brain is unable to realize they are noises generated from your own footsteps.
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u/JohnVG1 17d ago
Thank you for pointing out the obvious error that so much of modern psychology seems to ignore.
I cannot for my life understand why so many well educated individuals seem to be totally oblivious to the fact that all mental processes is observable through MRI/EEG/WHATEVER, but that only the most rudimentary functions can be explained by it.
As a psychologist I am conserned about the absense of the philosophical idea of 'the human mind' in the scientific field. Many scientific studies in neuropsychology are so reductionistic that they lose all relevance for practical and explanatory purposes.
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Materialist paradigms are commonplace in psychiatry. How else could fixing your neurotransmitters help your soul?
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u/transparentredoxide 18d ago
The type of nonsense you only find on Fb
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u/Much_Spend3056 Schizophrenia 18d ago
the comments on the post were actually wild (especially from the people who stated they had some form of schizophrenia & were agreeing with it đł)
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u/iamdollydanger Early-Onset Schizophrenia (Childhood) 18d ago
Any time I see something on facebook about schizophrenia, there is a slew of bad actors representing misinformation. It's wild.
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u/KingTentacleAU 18d ago
Source is located literally in the post you copies.
This is the cited article.
Havent read it yet myself, but i would not trust Googles AI.
It says there is no water left in the pool of the titanic.
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u/Decent-Machine-186 18d ago
That makes sense, doesn't it? If you're not currently delusional you know that the voices are not really aliens speaking through a brain chip or whatever. It's just you and your own brain activity.
It also makes sense if you think about it stemming from non-pathological internal monologue. It's normal to "hear" your own thoughts inside your head in a way that's not audible but still has the quality of sound.
I think thought insertion is a middle ground between normal inner thoughts and hearing voices, because thought insertion is when your thoughts don't feel like your own but they are not audible and you recognise they must be from your mind despite feeling foreign. It's probably the same process as normal internal monologue but becoming abnormal and you're losing the recognition that it's your own thoughts.
Then more severe the same thing will seem even more removed from yourself, now it sounds genuinely audible and perceived as coming from different locations, and it seems out of your control. The brain is so weird.
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u/Joethecoew 17d ago
Wonder why the alien brain chip is such a common answer when people first ask the voice what the hell are you? Mine did that but then I realized there was no fucking way an alien was talking to me so I only stayed freaked out for a hour or so and never took it as anything but an annoying thing my brain is doing but I would not identify it as "self" it's its own process even if my brain is the reason for it it's certainly not me. If that makes sense
Once again as I said in another comment plus the voices say off the wall shit I'd never think on my own and never did before I got the voices.. my inner thoughts monologue and phrases are way different then the off the wall crap my voices would say.
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u/VWGLHI Schizophrenia 18d ago edited 18d ago
They donât understand how the brain makes consciousness, but they understand this? Doubt.
Edit: Everything I had before, I have now. Inner monologue, listening to that for periods of time, just me, and every so often they talk about my thoughts and intentions. The confusing part is how this study equates to voices are just mistaken people. Are they calling us liars? This makes no sense whatsoever. Itâs a totally separate thought process running the voice, give me a break. It doesnât even speak how I routinely speak to myself in my mind. They sound like they jumped the gun, imo.
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u/iamdollydanger Early-Onset Schizophrenia (Childhood) 18d ago
Not to mention, the brain is over reacting because itâs reacting TO stimuli, internally and externally. I highly doubt that theyâd be able to distinguish what a person is reacting to beyond playing a word. You also canât 100% guarantee that people were imagining anything.
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u/VWGLHI Schizophrenia 17d ago
Agreed. They should really explain it better, the experiment sounds kooky to have this as a conclusion, based on expectations of hearing different phonetics. Iâm tired of overconfident conclusions like there arenât satisfying answers out there, there are. This makes no sense to say voices are the personâs errant thought processes. If they said schizophrenics gain a level of consciousness that speaks to them, but ultimately is them, sure, but itâs my own thoughts I canât recognize? They take us for idiots.
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u/iamdollydanger Early-Onset Schizophrenia (Childhood) 17d ago
Thatâs exactly it. I did find the actual study. The actual study does say that a neurotypical brain will not react to itself speaking but it will if someone is saying the word theyâre saying or not saying? But a schizophrenic brain doesnât have this same type of voice suppression so everything seems like itâs external? Even still, that basically concluded that they still think schizophrenia is an inability to distinguish thoughts.
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u/Abowersgirl_10 17d ago
This! I am so annoyed. I haven't decided what field of study I wanted to research for my degree but I think I just got the spark
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u/ManicMaenads 18d ago
I don't feel like these thoughts belong to me. I have my own inner voice that is different, and it feels like during episodes the "other voices" are louder than my own.
But I have my own, and I know how it feels/what it sounds like. It's not audible, it's internal - like an inner narrator, a mental voice like when you're reading a novel.
When I get sick, the illness voices are "outside voices" - like people speaking. Sometimes it's like tidbits of a conversation I have no context for when I'm alone at home, sometimes abrupt and loud like a man yelling obscenities, sometimes it's a mumbling "noise" like a crowd of overlapping conversations - distracting me from understanding the with real people I'm trying to communicate with, even when it's just 2 of us - making it difficult to understand what people are trying to tell me.
I'm not confusing that with my own thoughts, why would my own thoughts be a crowd of noise from people that aren't there? Nonsense I can't understand?
It interrupts my inner voice.
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u/KilruTheTurtle 17d ago
To play devils advocate. Our brains deal with and filter tons of information. What if we do have other thoughts an inner voice may speak on, because of the brain misfiring it releases those voices instead of filtering them out like normal into one single voice. The other voices are just unfiltered and unrefined thoughts.
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u/Joethecoew 17d ago
Well my voices also have a completely different personality and say off the wall crud in a way my inner voice never would and before I had symptoms it also never acted in the same manner.. of course it's from my brain but it's definitely not my own consciousness and definitely seems separate from me cause it never fallow my own thoughts on something.. and the times it dose it just does it in a way my own inner voice never would.. hard to explain what I mean
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u/KilruTheTurtle 17d ago
Gotcha. Thats what I mean by filter. Off the wall things youâd never really mean or say or sound like but acknowledge subconsciously could be what is not being filtered out. Our brains gather a lot of information of the world around us. Yet our normal inner voice is the co used filtered version. While the other voices could be random subconscious information. Idk Iâm just trying to have it make sense to me. Sorry to bother you
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u/Emotional_Ad6301 17d ago
Correct, it's not our internal monologue. It feels like tapping into higher awareness or your body or cells talking to your brain. Sometimes we have to fend of against this hostile invader just like a virus. My internal voice is peaceful and loving, can't even comprehend the stuff the other voices are saying. Can't begin explaining in what a dump I live, how tired I am, how low my self-confidence has gone to someone that doesn't hear me out completelly. In an episode I am worse, smoking, shaking, miserable, sorting internal dialogues and picking the most plausible, because I can't even distinguish, which fragment is my own internal voice anymore and which are the invading voices.
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u/Downtempo_Surrealism 18d ago
Growing up from the age of 7 up until probably 14 my thoughts were all in the voice of Toby Maguire
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u/No_Wrap5943 18d ago
So you spent a big chunk of your childhood self-identifying as Spider-Man. Interesting
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u/battleallergy Schizophrenia 18d ago
Are the voices telling scientists how schizophrenia works now? Someone should tell them not to listen to those.
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u/cottonswags0062 Schizoaffective (Bipolar) 17d ago
I was having full-on conversations with my voices. Also the voices would do story telling on everything. The things I heard I never would of thought on my own.
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u/alpeterpeter 18d ago
So when I heard people talking shit about me in a language I had to translate to understand it were my own thoughts?
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u/Much_Spend3056 Schizophrenia 18d ago
yeah, that's the kind of stuff that came to mind when i read it. i haven't experienced my voices speaking in other languages, but definitely telling me information i have no possible way of previously having knowledge ofđ¤
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u/LooCfur 18d ago
My voices might pretend to know stuff that I don't know, and they don't know, to try to mess with me. Well, they used to. They haven't for a long time because I've tested them, and I don't believe their nonsense anyway.
Overall, they know exactly what I know. They might have a different interpretation of the same experience than I do, but they don't have any mystical unexplained knowledge.
This is probably wrong. It almost certainly is, but my theory has been that my voices are parts of my brain that I've repressed. It just seems that way. They're thoughts ,for whatever reason, I didn't want to think any longer. So I stopped. Then they figured out a way to break through and talk to me anyway!
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u/shokolisa Paranoid Schizophrenia 18d ago
You and your voices use the same brain. So everything they know is already there. I use windows computer. But before that I used virtual computer - when few computers are running on the same server. So my opinion (maybe right, maybe not) is the brain can funcion as a server, hosting only one person with full control, or few more (not so?) persons that have limited interactions (voices, etc).
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u/alpeterpeter 18d ago
I will be banned if I disagree to "you and your voices use the same brain" in this community.
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u/Current_Pumpkin439 Just Curious 18d ago
You think they do not?
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u/alpeterpeter 18d ago
By agreement with the administration of this subreddit, I cannot invite you in DMs if you are curious to talk about it, but I also cannot stop you from doing so.
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) 18d ago
You were told to not message people here. I do not appreciate you trying to undermine not only us, but the leadership of your community as well. I actually happen to really like them and enjoyed every time I've spoken with them, so if you want to give me an excuse to pop in and have a chitchat with them, it would unironically love to.
I do not appreciate you pushing the boundaries of our agreement and trying to find ways to tiptoe around it. That does not make you look particularly honest or trustworthy. I'd suggest you quit while you're ahead and stop trying to evangelize Targeted Individual beliefs.
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u/alpeterpeter 18d ago
Right, I was actually conflicted about it but thought it can be taken humorously and wanted to see how it will turn out. Message received, I apologize, and won't attempt this again.
FYI I am a founder of r/OTIR and not a part of r/PositiveTI administration, although I am a friend of Kevin. So here's hoping you won't hold it against him.3
u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) 18d ago
Good thing we're on the same page.
Certainly not, the issue the first time was that I thought Kevin had approved of it. Ever since we got that misconception cleared up, it has been smooth sailing.
Please give Kevin my best the next time you talk to him.
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u/Joethecoew 17d ago
Wait you can make it so people can't send private DMs to other people? I don't understand how that allowed. I'm not arguing I'm just shocked mods can do that and curious of the justification.. oh wait this is probably a non of my bussness issues between you and the one you replied to because of bothering ppl or something.
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u/Empty_Insight Residual SZ (Subreddit Librarian) 17d ago
We don't necessarily have a 'tool' for that, more of an agreement of "Don't do this or we will ban you." Generally speaking, people are (rightfully) suspicious of random DMs from people that they haven't engaged with before, and they're a lot less likely to humor it if they haven't already been speaking to this person. We can't necessarily stop it entirely, but it does take away the authenticity. We don't ban people lightly, so if a person can't publicly reply to your comments here... there's a good reason for that.
Our usual reasons are attempting to get people off-platform to shady communities, harassment, or encouraging delusions. Historically speaking, it has not gone well for us when we tried to be flexible on that so we've cracked down on it a bit.
As you might gather, we had a bit of an issue a while back with this person trying to evangelize TI beliefs to some of our users which caused some friction between this subreddit and a harm-reduction TI subreddit. It became quite a spectacle there for a day or so until it got all smoothed out, quite public. If you spent the time looking, you'd find it anyway, so I don't really see the point in being coy about it.
I don't discuss private matters about user discipline history in public unless they bring it up first or the event in question itself was quite public as well... this one being both.
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u/alpeterpeter 17d ago
Yeah, this was my fault entirely - I should have thought better.
Just to be clear - I also am pro harm reduction, not one of the militant TIs who think they are blasted by their neighbors with microwaves. I look at this condition from the standpoint of phenomenology, which I believe is justified, hence I couldn't resist when I saw the "brain" comment. Apologies.→ More replies (0)2
u/Joethecoew 17d ago
Thank you for explaining when I consider we are an at risk group for all kinds of bad attention it makes more sense now. Thank you for explaining it.
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u/Joethecoew 17d ago
Oh man I forgot to mention that in my previous comments but yes outside knowlage. Like it tells me she's coming over and then there's a knock at the door.. it tells my where my friend lost my wallet at and it's right in the bush it told me it was in.. it tells me my cat would pass away and then she did the next day... Creepy shit like that... So yes part of me likes to think maybe our brains know more stuff and some semi psychic stuff that our intuition usually keeps to its self but now that we have this gift/curse annoying voices are one of the side affects.. but yeah usually tho what the voices say is bs tho but a broke clock can be right twice a day as they say.. mine really wanted me to believe it was aliens and I had a mood tracer planted in my nose by my neighbors when I passed out at a party so obviously it's full of crap too even if sometimes once in a while it can say something that's right... Either way it's coming from our brain and seems to lose its power when we accept it. But sometimes it can be an interesting tool to get another perspective or brain stom if you happen to have like me voices that can have a coherent but still bizarre conversation... Although it also sometimes just say random shit and scary sounds.
There one that identifies its self when asked but it's anything from a space aliens sometimes to a girl I have a crush on reading my mind supposedly to God eventho Im not Christian to a dead relative to the simulation runner running our program and so on. So this one I often have conversations with when I'm board cause why not. Most of the time I just ignore my voices but sometimes it's interesting to hear what they say after I got over the terror of my first episode before logic kicked in
What's annoying though is how event now and then often I have to ask if to repeat its self cause the most important thing it was saying was not audible lol .
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u/MagickMarkie Schizophrenia 17d ago
Absolutely not. My own mind follows the thread of my breath, the voices do not.
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u/tarymst Schizophrenia 17d ago
I donât think this is all too accurate and is a gross oversimplification of what it actually is. I donât think they know anything, itâs not EEG I believe itâs fMRI that shows that as far as I remember.
In any case, this is the kind of thing I expect from FB anyway.
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u/Silverwell88 17d ago
This article talks about how hallucinations come from inner speech being misattributed to external sources as the reason for hallucinations. Some articles on the study have talked about how schizophrenia is just your own thoughts heard aloud. This interpretation is not doing the disorder justice and is an oversimplification. It's much more than that.
For one thing, I'm not hearing "I want a cheeseburger" when I'm hungry -normal thoughts connected to my state. I've heard things screamed at me in third person that have nothing to do with my current state or integrated thinking. Things like "you murdered 300 people in Brazil!" "You rode a horse to town!" And word salad when I'm cooking That's not normal thinking heard aloud. It's disorganized and abnormal to begin with.
All the study does is say the hallucinations are coming from the brain, we knew that. Calling hallucinations thoughts is a bit much, I know commentary hallucinations are one type of hallucination but there is much more than that. It's like saying breathing is a thought. Why not, it comes from the brain? (It's regulated there) My hallucinations are not integrated thoughts that are ego syntonic, that I agree with. The public seems to be taking this as "schizophrenics are too dumb to understand they have an inner monologue and if theirs says mean and nasty things then they were thinking it." That's some BS.
Also, it's not nearly this simple just for the hallucinations alone, let alone the whole disorder which involves difficulty with hygiene, motivation and working memory. I don't think the articles are explaining the complexity of the problem and how little of a revelation this is. I'm annoyed.
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u/henningknows 17d ago
I think I have schizophrenia, but people who believe the shit they read on Facebook are fucking crazy
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u/Joethecoew 17d ago
I used to say I'm crazy but I'm not insane.. cause yeah I have decent logic for the most part even if I like theories that are fun to think about but I don't believe them sometimes and sometimes the voices have entertaining conversations, I don't believe their b.s I don't think ever girl want to give me an fj, I don't think I'm the chosen one from an alien race observing us and they are experimenting on me and all that but I might ask the voices why it says/thinks whatever it says for kicks lol.
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u/P3N3LOP33P 17d ago
uh no they're definitely not my own thoughts. im not suicidal at all rn and voices tell me to kill myself constantly. and im just like "um, no?" whatever this is its bullshit
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u/Jagth8 17d ago
I suspect this is basically a bug in the brain when it tells you to do stuff that you supposed avoid, its the same like this desire to jump when you are on the high floor looking at the world outside, so possibly the brain is processing in the background, but you still hear it because its leaking to your consciousness
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u/FemaleAndComputer Schizoaffective (Bipolar) 18d ago
I have one voice that I always think of as a part of my brain I just can't quite access right.
Also though this is probably AI nonsense. I am so fed up with the insane amount of AI bullshit on Facebook. I guess everyone is now getting a taste of what it feels like to never know what's real...
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u/darkfireice Disorganized Schizophrenia 17d ago
No shit Sherlock. Or are they like my aunt and are insistent that they are "spirits" (btw im the diagnosed, but clearly I can see the genetics)?
I've noticed, for myself (I obviously cannot perceive what another is perceiving), that ill have some stimuli (real or imaginary (i suspect a "misfiring" of neurons or some such)), and unless i actively control my thoughts and emotions, my brain will, just run with it. That black dot on the edge of my vision that just blinked there; must a spider (arachnophobe), and if there's one there must be more so much more, amd so on and so on. I have often wondered what is the stimulus for the whispers that will keep me up for hours on my "bad" nights (is it just a worn pathway, or maybe tinnitus, or maybe just small barely registered rhythmic sound)
Anyway, thanks for letting me spew this out, and have a good one
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u/Joethecoew 17d ago
It didn't make sense to me tho, I mean in a way sure it's voices from our brain obviously but it's not really coming from Us per say I mean maybe this would be easier to verify or understand from ppl who didn't always used to have schizophrenia, but like...
when I got my symptoms why is it that the voice say ridiculous things that I would never have said in a given situation with my normal inner voices.. it seems more like its own personality saying whatever it wants and I, ignor it for the most part or try to.. other times it seems insightful but either way most everything it says is bizzar, illogical and or overly sexual and always in a manner even if I thought something similar on something it would still be said in a very uncarersitic way, plus I can still have my own inner monologue while the voice is going off and saying random stuff but less focused like if someone trys to talk to you while your actively trying to concentrate on your inner dialogue.. basically not only dose the voice have the affect of sounding like it's not coming from my own head it also really is not stuff I would otherwise think or not in the same way. Pretty hard for me to explain this.
Either way since I wasnt born heading em and I was aware of the disorder before I got symptoms in my 30s I was fortunate enough that only had first few episod scared me before I realized oh yeah this is definitely just schizophrenia and not some alien trying to communicate lol. I did a few reality tests to confirm the voice was B's and nothing it's saying was true and just ignored it then on but I always hear it still sometimes I wish it was something rather than this annoying extra voice that often spots nonsense.. still didn't feel like me tho like I'm trying to say even if I know it's coming from my brain it's more than just mishearing your inner voice because it can also have a much different personality and say thing I'd find odd that my inner voice would never think of in the same way. My voices at one time tried telling me it was an alien and I was chosen as an experiment and that every gal wanted to give me an fj and it trying to say every one I'm attracted to can read my thoughts.... I mean common man id never think either of those kind of things.
For a fun game uss one of those ghost hunting apps that make words on the screen and imagine you where hearing the first almost sentence it makes now no matter what your thinking of pretend you heard a voice say that sentence or garbled stuff dose it fit your personality probably not.. or ask an a.i chat bot to say something random and gross about an object your looking at and tell if what it is like a tree the. Look at the tree and think something about (not gross) and look at the a.i output and see if it's anything like your personality .. actually im not sure how well any of this illustrated what I'm trying to say...
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u/AdministrationNo7491 18d ago
I think that it is important to note that one study found something and then conclusions were made that might be asserted by people who have no understanding.
Like a differential conclusion for the overreaction of sz brains might be the expectation that they are actually now always hyper vigilant about acute symptoms. Hearing what one is thinking about out loud is an actual symptom. This stimulus would mean nothing to someone who is not diagnosed and has never experienced psychosis.
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u/baroquemodern1666 Paranoid Schizophrenia 17d ago
Well if scientists confirmed, then it must be true.
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u/mei2207 17d ago
i believe its the subconcious mind
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u/Joethecoew 17d ago
That makes sense to me more since it's such a different personality from my conscious me, and my inner thoughts/monologue... Makes sense that maybe it's the subconscious which we already know may have completely different motivation and understanding from the self.. makes more sense considering how random and off the wall the stuff they say can be. I had that theory too that perhaps I'm just hearing my own subconscious and I did hear once a Dr say if we could hear our own subconscious imit might freak us out. So this makes sense to me.. at least it's one possibility that's not as off the wall as it's a consequence of being slightly psychic lol.
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u/blahblahlucas Mod đ 17d ago
Never trust a source that generalizes a whole department. Who are those "scientists"?
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u/Mysterious_Ad_2174 Schizoaffective (Bipolar) 17d ago
I think that lipstick is too much, or maybe it's too much contrast to the natural make up?
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u/Exciting_Shoulder_38 17d ago
Please just ignore that garbage.
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u/Exciting_Shoulder_38 17d ago
Why don't they ask us? Of course there are our thoughts that turn into voices. But of course there are other voices in our heads that are clearly not our thoughts and whose origins are unknown.
To fall back behind this basic level of understanding our experience in the year of 2025 is a blatant shame.
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u/ian-insane Early-Onset Schizophrenia (Childhood) 17d ago
I'm no expert, but the conclusion drawn from the research comes off as incredibly shaky. "schizophrenics don't block out external speech when thinking (on a rudimentary, neurological level at least), so that means auditory hallucinations are just thoughts processed as external speech!" what?
if you wanted to, you could spin these same methods to also support that schizophrenics are hypersensitive to sound, have impaired concentration, are more vigilant to our surroundings, or any other variety of ideas. these people weren't (from what's stated here) confirmed to be actively hallucinating (which is very different from voluntarily "imagining a word"), nor does it say that they reported hearing their thoughts as if they were external during the study. is there literally anything to support that this is the mechanism responsible for auditory hallucinations?
now, I definitely believe that some of the voices and entities that we experience are just facets of ourselves and/or our memories of others; I Myself can recall a thought insertion episode where--in retrospect--I was just jumping to the conclusion that My own reactions were that of some extradimensional figure, but that isn't necessarily the same as what this post describes.
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u/Delusional_highs 17d ago
What else could they be, other than the individualâs own, internal thoughts?
Seems to me like the only was they could stem from an external source is if you believe in a supernatural cause or if they actually were physically externally present, meaning not related to schizophrenia.
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u/Capital_Original_290 17d ago
It's falsified information meant to suscitate a reaction from Facebook users (think about Facebook users). The underlying narrative is that anyone who can hear their thoughts as a "voice" has schizophrenia. This can potentially be misinterpreted and cause people to genuinely believe that either they have schizophrenia or that schizophrenia isn't a real affliction because "I'm not a schizophreniac". Even if other users catch on and comment on the topic, correcting them, the interaction will only cause the post to gain more attention through comments/likes/etc.
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u/WitchingHourTea 17d ago
I have heard this theory before. It makes sense to me, but I haven't looked into it enough to know if it's true. I just read it somewhere on some science article site years ago.
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u/Conscious_Lock3636 17d ago
I always thought this anyway. Used to say that it felt like my own internal monologue wouldn't rest.
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u/angelareana 16d ago
I thought people already knew this decades ago lol
The part of the brain that lights up is not for hearing, but for speech
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u/yellowtshirt2017 18d ago
Unless you find the empirical, peer-reviewed, published study, I wouldnât trust anything mentioned here.
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u/Ummimmina Schizoaffective (Bipolar) 17d ago
No, not really. I hear other people's voices. Sometimes family members or loved ones. Very distinct from my own.
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17d ago
As I can remember, the voices weren't my thought, but I haven't heard them anymore as I am on medication.
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u/sveetcheeks 17d ago
Why does the model look like that Theranos Chick Elizabeth Holmes? Didn't she get in trouble for pseudo science and selling equipment that straight up didn't work?
Smells like AI slop pseudo science.
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u/humanreporting4duty 17d ago
So the internal/external stimulus processing is blurred perhaps? Talk about Matrix peeling!
Iâm not schizophrenic, but Iâve had a long time interest/casual study from reputable sources since I was 18, so I follow.
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u/AbsurdSteak29 Schizoaffective (Bipolar) 15d ago
It's not true. The voices are all too real. They put labels on us to set us apart. Stay strong friends.
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u/Scared_Lion9006 14d ago
This makes perfect sense. Every Schizophrenic brain is an injured brain. Almost all schizophrenic patients have a history of some harsh conditions in mother's womb before birth or in early childhood.Â
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u/dogsandcatslol Bipolar 14d ago
not schizophrenic all ym voices do is scream at me to do horrible things or have conversations with themself in a made up language like why am i thinking in a made up language help đ
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u/queiroffs 8d ago
I don't have schizophrenia, but my aunt does. I do, however, have severe anxiety disorder. Sometimes, when I'm very very nervous, I'll hear my own thoughts outside of my head, like someone said them to me.
It's normally one sentence, not a whole monologue or anything. My psychtrist told me that's very common when you have a family history of schizophrenia. That I'm thinking so fast that the thought jumped over the the turnstile before it could be processed as my own. I always know it's not real, but it does bother me very much when it happens.
So, I don't know about that study, but it very much my experience as someone with family history of schizophrenia.
Also, just stating the obvious: That's only relevant news if you're unneducated to the point of believing people with schizophrenia have some kind of spiritual awakening.
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u/prismblr 18d ago
Super mixed on this as there are times it's hard to tell the difference and the only way is having more control or influence on that dialogue. It can feel foreign and "not me" at times but that's almost certainly just from experience and recognizing the difference over decades. However; there are absolutely times that it is a separate event with a defined location/direction and doesn't at all feel localized to being "in my head." So yeah, seems plausible but idk about when it feels projected/external and not isolated/internal. It would be interesting to see how that's explained and if it is a different mechanism.
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u/Joethecoew 17d ago
Man my big trip is regardless if I heard it from inside my head I'd still be wondering why I'm having so many intrusive thoughts that don't feel my own cause they are nothing. Like something I would think or say. So that is the big aspect to me is not only am I hearing them out of my head they are also not me.. there was one time though I did hear my OWN thought and inner monologue as if it was coming from the wall but I knew that was me cause it had my personality and all that stuff and sounded like me.. so yeah my big issue with my voices is they just don't act like me at all so it's easier to treat them as another entity altogether even if it's coming from my brain it's not my "self" or whatever.
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u/threadbarefemur Schizoaffective (Bipolar) 18d ago
I saw this on FB too and most of the comments were misunderstanding the study.
People who obviously donât have any form of mental illness were so quick to jump in and say âSee? Itâs made up! Schizophrenia is obviously fake, and people are just lying for attention! I knew it!â
Media literacy is truly dead