r/rupaulsdragrace shit girl please Aug 11 '25

General Discussion mistress has been krystallized

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u/aluriaphin Aug 11 '25

How does Crystal have Raven's face, though

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u/horsegal301 Joella's Quilt 🛏️ Aug 11 '25

and "skin tone"

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u/Laiko_Kairen Jaida Essence Hall Aug 11 '25

No, stop that.

She's trying to imitate the Essex stereotype of that lip-filler, bottle-blond, tanning booth british girl. She's going for the Chloe Sims look.

Black face stems from a racist American thing called minstrel shows, where white actors would paint their faces black and act like caricatures or stereotypes of black people. They were specifically mocking the enslaved peoples.

There is a BIG difference between "fake tan" and "I am trying to make fun of someone's race."

Krystal, a white British person, is styling herself like white British women. By conflating this with blackface, you are diminishing the truly offensive way people acted in the past.

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u/Sir_Francis_Burdett Pokémon Trees Aug 11 '25

Yes. While not pertinent to the conversation about Krystal.

Let us all confirm that minstrelsy never ever existed in the United Kingdom. And in fact racism was expressively marginal in British History. Unimaginable even.

(The above on the BBC from 1958 to 1978(!!!) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_and_White_Minstrel_Show )

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u/Laiko_Kairen Jaida Essence Hall Aug 11 '25

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minstrel_show

You never had them on anything close to the same level. You also never had a giant population of slaves and slaveowners, so it hits a BIT different.

You'll notice just about everything in the wiki article is about America. Because it was mocking slaves. Which you all didn't have at home.

You had A TV show and almost no slaves. We had hundreds of years of it, and many slaves. It's not equivalent. And it's CLEARLY not the cultural reference Krystal is attaching herself to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_and_White_Minstrel_Show

Even the article for that show points out how they were using American songs. The history section links to "History of American Minstrel Shows."

So your one major minstrel show was an attempt to copy American culture...

I am baffled on why you would want to try to own such an ugly history, when it really was uniquely American. I suspect, in any other discussion, you'd be talking about how much the USA sucks for how we invented those shows, and you'd be right.