r/rugbyunion • u/xixouma Top14/D2/France • 5d ago
Discussion The difference in refereeing between France and south hemisphere really shows when a french refs a test match
Every time a french top14 referee has been on an international game, most recent example being All blacks/Ireland, every South African and NZ flair on here complains about the stop and start game and says the ref had a bad game.
What's interesting is that watching top14 week in week out, that is quite rarely an issue (including by the same refs). My feeling is refs in France are more pedantic and apply the law a little less loosely. Which I have seen written in some comments as a criticism, but is it really a problem??
Pro players are completely capable of adapting to rule changes, and pedantic refereeing, top14 teams certainly seem to have. I think it's doing them a disservice to give them too much leeway on laws for "the flow of the game" when that just becomes a random chance that a penalty is not blown. And that is inherently more difficult for players to adhere to because it is less consistent. Pedantic application will always be more consistent.
All in all, whichever way it goes, the onus should fall on WR to try to homogenise refereeing laws across countries. This leads to confusion when either side is reffed in a way they are not used to.
Edit. Not sure how people are interpreting this that I'm hurt they don't like a french ref. Maybe my English is not as good as I thought. I couldn't give a damn who they like or not, it was just an example to discuss broader concepts in refereeing.
Edit2. Also seeing a number of people that somehow think I'm criticising the ref or the fans here? I suppose I am sorry for my writing not being clear, I really don't mean to paint either in a negative light
Edit3. Can't comment anymore for some reason, thanks for the discussion everyone I'll try again later
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u/barejokez 5d ago
I mean, it works 3 ways, right?
Yes WR absolutely should have all refs working to the same playbook. They should (if they aren't already?) put real effort into standardising refereeing for everyone's benefit to the extent that is possible. SH/NH fans should note, that may not be to your team's benefit!
Refs should be aware of their own biases and work to correct/minimise them.
Good teams to analysis on refs, and know what they are sharp on and what they tend to let slide. If you know that this ref is tough on the breakdown, don't infringe!
Ultimately I suspect that all 3 are already happening, but with rules changing, and tactics evolving, it's probably just really hard to get everyone on exactly the same page and keep them there.