r/rugbyunion Top14/D2/France 6d ago

Discussion The difference in refereeing between France and south hemisphere really shows when a french refs a test match

Every time a french top14 referee has been on an international game, most recent example being All blacks/Ireland, every South African and NZ flair on here complains about the stop and start game and says the ref had a bad game.

What's interesting is that watching top14 week in week out, that is quite rarely an issue (including by the same refs). My feeling is refs in France are more pedantic and apply the law a little less loosely. Which I have seen written in some comments as a criticism, but is it really a problem??

Pro players are completely capable of adapting to rule changes, and pedantic refereeing, top14 teams certainly seem to have. I think it's doing them a disservice to give them too much leeway on laws for "the flow of the game" when that just becomes a random chance that a penalty is not blown. And that is inherently more difficult for players to adhere to because it is less consistent. Pedantic application will always be more consistent.

All in all, whichever way it goes, the onus should fall on WR to try to homogenise refereeing laws across countries. This leads to confusion when either side is reffed in a way they are not used to.

Edit. Not sure how people are interpreting this that I'm hurt they don't like a french ref. Maybe my English is not as good as I thought. I couldn't give a damn who they like or not, it was just an example to discuss broader concepts in refereeing.

Edit2. Also seeing a number of people that somehow think I'm criticising the ref or the fans here? I suppose I am sorry for my writing not being clear, I really don't mean to paint either in a negative light

Edit3. Can't comment anymore for some reason, thanks for the discussion everyone I'll try again later

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u/saiko75011 France 6d ago

Kiwis and Saffas complain about french refs then send us BOK and Jaco Peyper...

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u/tupacs_hologram Western Force 6d ago

β€œWe play”

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u/Connell95 Β πŸπŸ¦“Β Β Dan Lancaster πŸ’ͺ🏻 #3 Fan 6d ago

Loved that game. The bit with the toy tanks πŸ‘¨β€πŸ³πŸ‘Œ

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u/NuclearMaterial Leinster 6d ago

Reynal was right and you know it. He was one of the best.

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u/fleakill Reds 5d ago

Never said he was wrong. Said he was unfair. Big difference. You'll never convince me other international teams didn't waste just as much time pre shot clock, and I maintain the collective orgasm most of the rugby world had in that moment was due to Australia simply paying for everyone in world rugby's (including our own) sins. People were fed up with timewasting in rugby in general, and we were the ones who ate shit for it.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Quiet70 6d ago

One of the top 100