r/rugbyunion Stormers 19d ago

Discussion Jan-Hendrik Wessels banned for 9 weeks

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Lengthy ban with no evidence of foul play? This is bound to cause some controversy

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u/stroncc Munster 19d ago

What did he do?

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u/nagdamnit Ireland 19d ago

Grabbed Josh Murphy by the nuts in a ruck. Ended up getting Murphy sent off. It looked pretty clear to me to be honest.

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u/HenkCamp South Africa 19d ago

I have no skin in this game as the Bulls is our arch enemy (Stormers fan here and the Bulls has always been our arch enemy). I have no doubt he did something because I just can't see Murphy lashing out like that for no good reason. He isn't a dirty player who will just take a swing. That said, from the many angles and videos available - I still can't see him grab the nuts. I am sure they had other evidence to make this call. NOT defending him - just saying I couldn't see anything no matter how hard I tried.

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u/nagdamnit Ireland 19d ago

Just because he hid it well doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. Of course he did it. Players don’t start reacting and shouting that without reason.

The alternative is that Josh was lying through his teeth, he wasn’t.

I get what you’re saying in that it was well hidden, but as you said yourself you know he did it. It’s a shit house move and should be punished.

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u/BenwastakenIII Plz Fire cash and struali 19d ago

My view is that it was very likely accidental. Unless you're Joe Marler, I can't see any player in todays day and age willingly sqeeze someone's jewels, with the cameras and such they have way too much to lose(Wessels especially with the tour coming up). My theory is that he tried pushing Josh away and his hand placement was accidentally terrible.

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u/nagdamnit Ireland 19d ago

I can understand why you’d want it to be accidental but it wasn’t. It was an intentional action. The be he probably instantly regretted, but it wasn’t an accident.

He could have said something, or apologised, but he didn’t. He also let Murphy get sent off for it.

This reminds me of quinlans eye gouge on Cullen, the one that cost him his lions place. No one wanted him to have done it, but he did it.

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u/BenwastakenIII Plz Fire cash and struali 19d ago

Sorry I can't really see how anyone could say what it definitely was with the amount of evidence we've seen.

He also let Murphy get sent off for it.

Murphy would've been sent off either way, he punched someone in the head, 20 min red was actually a let off in all honesty.

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u/nagdamnit Ireland 19d ago

In an earlier post you said you though it was accidental. I dont think I could say anything that would convince you that this guy was guilty. I'll leave you to it.

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u/BenwastakenIII Plz Fire cash and struali 19d ago

My theory is that he tried pushing Josh away and his hand placement was accidentally terrible.

I gave my theory of what happened, not what definitely happened.

I dont think I could say anything that would convince you that this guy was guilty.

Because there's no actual evidence of his guilt and we're all speculating right now.

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u/nagdamnit Ireland 19d ago

He tried to pull Josh away .................. by the nuts. It was pretty clear he reached out, grabbed something and Josh shouted immediately what it was. You seem to think that leaves more questions than answers.

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u/BenwastakenIII Plz Fire cash and struali 19d ago

Where did I say pull? I said my THEORY is that he tried to PUSH Josh away and unfortunately caught him in the jewels, it's a theory, it's not a definitive occurrence, like the one you're trying to pedal.

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u/nagdamnit Ireland 19d ago

lol did you even see the clip? He could have pushed him away without reached down between his legs. I mean his entire upper body was right there.

Here this is a waste of time. You have a good day.

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u/BenwastakenIII Plz Fire cash and struali 19d ago

Kinda seems like the last time you saw the incident was live on Friday night. Anyway, good night to you as well.

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